Impeachment II: Republican Boogaloo

Yeah Sean ... remember her Dad? You just fucked with the wrong Dick.

Yeah, if you could stop making such racist posts and using racist terms, that'd be great. Unless racism is cool now and we should all start tossing racial epithets around.

Remember, there's zero tolerance on racebaiting on Wordforge. The Admins made a big deal about that. Promised that no one would get special treatment. The very idea that anyone would get special treatment is absurd. Remember all that?

[Dennis] Help! Help! I'm being oppressed! [/Dennis]

did they just vote to impeach trump?

I don't know, but I heard the Mayor of Portland was gassed.

Not sure. Ask Forbin.

Make. Them. Testify.
Call the Trump officials who resigned in protest to testify at the impeachment trial.

In this instance @oldfella1962 isn’t full of it.

Huntsville is where we hid Wernher von Braun and all the other Operation Paperclip Nazis. Because who looks in Alabama for a crap ton of scientists?

So Huntsville is the home of the US rocket program. Marshall Spaceflight (NASA) and Redstone Arsenal (military) are located there. As is Boeing’s and Blue Origin’s rocket programs and factories. Dynetics (company building lunar lander) is also Huntsville based.

I’m not saying it was the right move, don’t know enough. But if you are trying to break Space Force away from the Air Force and make it its own thing, Huntsville isn’t a bad location.

It makes good sense to me, which is why I always thought it was ridiculous that San Antonio was on the list of locations.

That Huntsville is a perfectly good location, possibly even a better location than Colorado, for Space Force doesn't change whether or not Trump decided to move the location of Space Force to Huntsville out of spite.

Anyone who's seen an episode of "Rocket City Rednecks" should have some idea of how many smart guys there are in Huntsville. They may have funny accents, but that's just a disguise. Also, Bob Barron an ex TV weatherman is the guy who founded the company that sells most of the weather radar systems to TV stations around the country. He was doing TV weather in Huntsville and program director at a top 40 radio station in the 70s (voice of God, type pipes) I met him and his Chief Designer, a good ol' boy who's email handle was "Radar Rick" when we were trying to get an advanced doppler system in the Cayman Islands, post Hurricane Ivan. Rick always had a spit cup with him and his wardrobe was cut off's, t-shirts and flip flops. I suspect he's one of the smartest people I've ever met. When it comes to disguising intellect a southern drawl and a spit cup are about as good as it gets.

Ah, but that's a problem in this instance. Here's why: When LBJ was getting NASA up and running for the Apollo program he made sure to scatter as many NASA facilities around the country as possible. This was so that it would be harder to kill the program and NASA. There's literally no reason why the bulk of NASA facilities couldn't all be located in TX. In fact, it'd make a fuck of a lot more sense (from a technological point of view) to put everything in TX. It's a coastal state, like FL, so you could send the launches over water, it has a whole bunch of desert, like Utah, so you could test the rockets there (and not be limited to the diameter of a railroad tunnel for how wide you could make your rockets), and it can communicate with the astronauts in space.

So why scatter those sites (plus dozens of others) all around the country? Because come budget time, fewer members of Congress are going to want to cut money for something going to their state. It's probably the only thing that saved NASA during the nadir years of the 70s. Granted, CO probably wasn't a great choice, either, since there's the AF Academy there already, so it's not like the state would be gaining a lot by adding the program. But had they put the Space Force in a state that didn't have a large AF presence, it would be less likely to be undone in the future.

I know a shit-ton of guys from Huntsville. That's where the best & brightest techs/engineers design, work on & develop the latest & greatest high tech gee-wiz military technology/equipment.
Pound-for-pound more military related contracting companies than just about anywhere. Throw in low cost-of-living, a low crime rate, and good weather and you can't beat it with a stick.
Huntsville is one reason the military is having trouble keeping NCO's in the high tech MOS's. They can get out when they are still young and make a shit-ton of money, if they can cut it among the best of the best that is.

Rand Paul is warning that if the Senate convicts Trump, ⅓ of the GOP will leave the party.

Oh no. How awful. Stop. Come back.

Oh, please, please, please!

And go where? Take over the Libertarian party?

Or just form a new Trump party? It’s happened before.

Guys like Colin Powell are more aligned with Obama/Biden than they are with Trump so I definitely see a split happening.

If it weren’t for Trump I think a lot of progressives would have left the Democrats and joined the Green Party.

If 2016 had been Hillary versus Jeb, I might have voted Jill Stein.

To me there isn’t a huge difference difference between the Clinton Democrats and the Bush Republicans.

Okay, so what does that have to do with Rand [Oh, please, Daddy, be proud of me!] Paul?

It’s hard to pin down Rand Paul. He doesn’t fit neatly into any group really.

He's a member of the "asshole" caucus...

Mitch would know.

Ever since Trump turned against him for recognizing that Biden won the election, McConnell has become much more reasonable. What that means, though, is that he was willing to subvert truth and the nation's best interest for 4 years, by sucking up to Trump and defending him no matter what (and most obviously in that parody of a "trial" in the senate after the first impeachment) in order to maintain his own political standing.

It's good to see him talking smack about Trump now, but it's waaaaaaayyyyyy to late for him to ever make me believe he is anything but a self-serving politician who is only interested in what gives him the most power.

I think it's been past that point since he was in high school running for student rep, it just depended on whether you wanted someone you could bribe.

When you're right, you're right. NASA and the DoD already have a HUGE presence here, so much so that Hunstville is poised to surpass Birmingham as the State's largest city solely because of the super-high tech industries popping up to support those missions.

The center's first Director was Wernher von Braun and it's been responsible for most of NASA's hardware since the Apollo program. The Saturn series, including Saturn V, was designed and built here. The main engines, solid rocket boosters, and external tank for the Shuttle were designed and built here. It all starts here before being shipped to Florida for final assembly in the VAB prior to launch. It has the same headquarters and control facilities as Houston and Colorado. It can all be done here without any upgrades. So, to me, it makes sense to put it here.