iPhone 5 (working title) Speculation Thread.

Uh... no.

Good for you. Whatever works for you.

So it sounds like there are TWO new iPhone models coming out.

One has the same form factor as the iPhone 4 but probably with upgraded specs (iPhone 4S?) and one with a new, larger form factor. This one is probably the "iPhone 5".

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/16/two-new-iphone-models-iphone-5-design-seeing-production-delays/

My speculations:

iPhone 4S will not have 4G LTE
iPhone 5 will have 4G LTE

Nothing to base that on. Just a hunch.

My 3GS is on it's last legs. I can't even put it on vibrate anymore, I just have to turn the ringer to the lowest level. I hope the 5 is worth the wait.

I'm in the same boat as you, Tex. I'm about to do some serious work travel in November and December. I NEED a reliable smart phone!

Personally, I doubt the iPhone 5 will have 4G. Granted, I have seen nothing lately but Gizmodo etc were all claiming last month that 4G just isn't there in terms of power consumption yet, and that an iPhone would have a raped battery life.

I'm only switching to the inferior Andriod platform if the new iPhone is just a remake of the current iPhone 4 with only slight upgrades. I would like it to have a bigger screen, be thinner, and more power efficient if possible. I would also like 4G LTE if it can be used for more than an hour without draining the entire battery.

Is this just an Apple problem b/c as someone above mentioned my Zune HD handles wireless syncing flawlessly.

Super convenient. My daily routine is listening to podcasts on my way home from work, unplug, walk inside, grab beer, drop Zune into my stereo cradle, go sit down, hit play on my zune stereo remote, pull up my laptop, drink beer. I never have to plug it in. In fact my Zune cable is in my wife's car so she can hook her Zune up to the Focus's Microsoft Sync.

Well, AT&T and Verizon went around installing 4G repeaters in all the Apple stores a few months ago for a reason, I'd like to think.

I was unaware that AT&T had done that. I knew Sprint had, but my assumption had just been that they were future proofing things.

Until now, I thought that the GSM version of the iPhone 5 would stop at HSPA+... a 3.5G solution at best.

You have me all hot and heavy now.

Yeah, let me see if I can find the article where I got that info from.

Here it is:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/16/att-installing-4g-lte-network-equipment-in-apple-retail-stores/

Speculate no longer.

iPhone 4S is the name.

There's no iPhone 5.

A5 Dual Core ARM Processor at 1GHz.

16GB, $199 / 32GB, $299 /64GB, $399 Models.

Comes in White or Black.

No LTE. No 4G. Download speeds doubled from about 7 MB/s to about 14 MB/s, still truly 4G though.

iOS 5.

Speech recognition / voice command system called "Siri" that sounds very intelligent and useful, I guess.

It's also a "World Phone", meaning both CDMA and GSM. No more separate GSM and CDMA models.

Better camera. 8MP. 1080P Video Capture.

A good update. This follows Apple's pattern established with the 3G to 3GS to 4.

Yeah, but the iPhone 4 really was the 4th iPhone.

I think a lot of people we expecting it to be the "iPhone 5" based on the fact that it really is the 5th iPhone.

But anyway, what's in a name? I'm a bit underwhelmed to be honest.

Sadly the new Siri assistant doesn't work with iPhone 4. But then again, Siri probably is the killer feature of iPhone 4S, so it's understandable they didn't want to support iPhone 4.

Agreed. It's a good pattern too. One year they release the big flagship model, the year after they essentially release the same product but with added bells and whistles. So following that pattern, next year is when Apple will release the next big one.
Since the average person doesn't buy a new phone every year I doubt too many people that have the iPhone 4 will be upgrading to the 4S (except the Apple fanboys who will buy up anything and everything Apple release) but next year expect millions of iPhone 4 owners to trade in the phone for the iPhone 5 - or whatever it will be called.

I'll get one for the wife, but I'll wait til next year for me. She has a 3G and it really struggles to run the iOS 4.3 software.

Yep me too. It's not that the iPhone 4 is a large device, but I would have liked something more slimmed down and the edge to edge screen would have been very nice. I'm optimistic about their upgraded 3G being faster, fast enough to make up for not having battery sucking 4G LTE hopefully.

If you have an iPhone 4 this has to be the only thing that would make you consider an upgrade. If I had an iPhone 4 I wouldn't upgrade for it though. There just isn't enough there to justify the switch.

This pattern sucks for those of use stuck in the off cycle. We get the shitty upgrade and have to wait out the next one for what will be another minor update. I'm on a broke down 3GS now, it was my first iPhone after my conversion from Blackberry. When I got it I knew it wasn't much better than an iPhone 3G but it was the best phone available when my contract life cycle ended.

I can't imagine trying to use iOS 4.3 on a 3G, my 3GS can barely take it.


I'm disappointed about this minor upgrade. I need to look at some Androids before making a decision. My contract is up, I can leave AT&T. So if I do decide to stick with iOS then I can make the move to Verizon or Sprint. That seems like my only bonus. I will admit that if Siri works the way they demoed it then I'm very excited to get a shot to use it. It wouldn't be enough to switch from an iPhone 4, but since my phone is on it's last legs it does at least keep Apple in the running.

I just have a bad feeling that if I do go with the iPhone 4S that in 6 months the iPhone 5 will come out and it will be the one that was truly worth waiting for… thinner, edge to edge screen, 4G LTE, expandable memory slot, NFC payments, realistic BJ simulator adapter… you know, all the stuff they left out of this one.

You have any info on that Nexus Prime? My bro-in-law was jazzing himself talking about it about a week ago but he had no info.

64GB? Sold.

Seeing the issues 4G carriers (Verizon in particular) are having with 4G versus Battery Life, that's a non-issue for me. I routinely get 4-5Mbps on my rural BFE 3G tower. While I'm sure the latency will suck, bumping it up to 14Mbps puts it close to being on par with my home connection.

I've had the Siri Personal Assistant app for over a year. It. Rocks.

Camren's got an SII, worth getting his thoughts on it.

Im probably going for one too, was waiting off to see what apple launched and how it affected prices.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 is a fabulous phone. Knocks the spots off the iPhone 4 IMO - although Apple have probably now redressed the balance with the 4S.
If you're looking for a non-iOS smartphone then the S2 is the phone to go for.

And if you're an Android fan then it goes without saying that this is the phone for you. Apple will always have some advantages over Android -especially with its superior App store but Android is coming on leaps and bounds and finally have matched Apple when the OS is running on a beast like the S2. It's every bit as smooth and slick as the iPhone and has a real wow factor to it which previously only Apple could really boast about.
Samsung have produced what is IMO the first genuine 'iPhone killer' (I hate that term!) after years of pretenders coming along claiming to better the iPhone - the S2 is the real deal.

The one thing that I love about the iPhone which Android phones lack is the brilliant games that are available to it - some of the high-powered games (like Street Fighter 4 and Resident Evil 4) is comparable with stuff on the PSP and DS. While phones like the S2 are powerful enough to handle these games, the developers just don't release them for Android, which is a real shame.

AFAIK the reason for that is the app requires the power and speed of the A5 processor to work. The A4 in the iPhone 4 can't handle the load.

BTW, that speed upgrade doesn't really help people in the US. Sprint and Verizon don't support it at all and AT&T does marginally. Overseas users will see a nice jump in speed.

I don't buy it. The Dragon Dictation engine works just fine on the iPhone 4. It's probably irrelevant if it takes the iPhone 1 or 2 seconds to analyze what you've said. I don't blame 'em tough, because supporting Siri on iPhone 4 would render the iPhone 4S useless.

Dragon, and similar apps, don't do the computations on the phone, but in the cloud. The 4s can do it on the phone, rather than using the cloud.

The Dragon app doesn't process speech on the iPhone itself. It records and sends what you speak back to Dragon, where it is processed and returned back to you. That is why you need an active internet connection to make it work.

I have used Dragon Dictate heavily, and use Dragon Go! Heavily.

IMO, Apple is screwing up big time by not using the Siri technology on the iPhone 4. I am a first time apple owner with my iPhone 4, and to tell me that the next OS isn't supported on my 13 month old phone is complete garbage. I won't get a 4S, that is for sure@!