Iranian security forces molested and killed a 16 year old girl.

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    An Iranian teenager was sexually assaulted and killed by three men working for Iran's security forces, a leaked document understood to have been written by those forces says.

    It has let us map what happened to 16-year-old Nika Shakarami who vanished from an anti-regime protest in 2022.

    Her body was found nine days later. The government claimed she killed herself.

    We put the report's allegations to Iran's government and its Revolutionary Guards. They did not respond.

    Marked "Highly Confidential", the report summarises a hearing on Nika's case held by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) - the security force that defends the country's Islamic establishment. It includes what it says are the names of her killers and the senior commanders who tried to hide the truth.

    It contains disturbing details of events in the back of an undercover van in which security forces were restraining Nika. These include:

    • One of the men molested her while he was sitting on her
    • Despite being handcuffed and restrained, she fought back, kicking and swearing
    • An admission that this provoked the men to beat her with batons
    There are numerous fake Iranian official documents in circulation, so the BBC spent months checking every detail with multiple sources.

    Our extensive investigations indicate the papers we obtained do chronicle the teenager's last movements.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68840881

    But who are we to impose our values on other cultures? :dayton:
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    Any day you want to put your money where your mouth is and head off to Iran to bring them to justice I think you can find it.

    It is just amazing how you feel everyone should be fighting Islam and yet you are never going to do anything yourself.

    Nothing is stopping you from fighting Iran. Nothing is stopping you from fighting Hamas. Nothing is stopping you from fighting Iraq. Nothing is stopping you from punching a Nazi. Any day you want to fight for one of your causes, they are all out there.

    Of course, it is always easier for you to try and get the goyum to do your dirty work for you because you feel your jewish ass is way too important to fight for things yourself and risk the possible retaliation.

    You are very like Donald Trump in that you feel the people who sign up for your battles are suckers.
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    As I pointed out in your other thread, this is what a "free" Gaza would look like. This is what the idiot American and Canadian college kids are protesting for. Oh, they say it's to stop a genocide but the banners and chants belie that. "From the river to the sea!..."
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    That's actually a mistranslation of "from the windows, to the walls."
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    They just do not want to waste their tax money on the violent genocidal welfare state of Isreal.

    If Isreal is meant to exist I am sure god can stop their attackers, not any of our tax money or citizens.

    Let us put that shit on god because it is god that supposedly gave them the right to the land. If god does not exist, the Isreal has no right to exist and a god given ethnostate where all others are oppressed and killed.
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    Imagine a world where leftists judged Muslims in foreign countries by the same standards they judge Christians and Jews anywhere.

    If the Republican party of Texas organized a militia to sneak into Mexico and kill over a thousand Mexicans, then kidnapped a few hundred more and refused to return them, you wouldn't have leftists occupying college campuses to demand mercy for Texas. :shrug:
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    It's this marxist critique that's being taught in colleges now that only the strong have any moral culpability.

    It's idiotic, and it comes right out of Marxist Critical Theory and has definitely germinated in the psyche of the far left.
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    Ah, sounds like an offshoot of the "only whites can be racist, no matter how hard anyone else tries" theory. :jayzus:
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    It turns out that police all over the world are shitty. Film at 11.
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    What the fuck is wrong with you? This is how you respond to the sexual assault and murder of a teenage girl? "Police all over the world are shitty?"

    You're so fucking worthless. Fuck you. :shrug:
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    Police all over the world are shitty, but Iranian security forces are a special breed of shit. I know the US is the Great Satan and all, but I wouldn't be sad if some of our missiles killed a few of these assholes.
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    What's wrong with my statement? And where was your outrage when I posted this story about cops raping kids? Or this one about cops in just the US have committed at least 1800 rapes of minors? Or this one where cops shot a teenager who was escaping from her kidnapper? Or this one about a domestic violence victim being murdered by the cops she called to protect her? And I could swear that I posted it, but I can't find it, so here's a story about a Federal prison that was known as "Club Rape."

    What makes this story worse than those I've linked to above or any of the others I've posted in thread, many of which do not involve cops in the US? Stories that you didn't even bother to hit a react emoji for, let alone comment on. Please, explain to a guy who's been posting shitty stories about cops in the same thread for 4 years now how this horrific incident is somehow deserving of a stronger response than you've given my posts about police brutality. I'm all fucking ears.
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    I see @14thDoctor has decided to go all FF once he's been called out.

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    But, hey, that's more than he's bothered to do in the Defund the Police thread, so that's something.

    Anybody want to hazard a guess if he'll actually post a serious response to this? Or do you think that he'll continue with the negative reacts and/or just saying, "Fuck you."? Odds are, if he's like most people when they've been shown up, he'll double down on his stupidity.
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    But what you are talking about does not involve going half way around the world to kill brown people. with a lot of people like @14thDoctor it is a lot of gaslighting a war on Islam and nothing about caring for solving the problems in our own communities. In the end you are not even going to solve the problem in Iran, just drop some bombs, cause some financial problems, and harm a bunch of people.

    There is a reality that we could do better in the US for protecting women from the problems of rape by authorities and protecting them in our streets, and that would be great. But they do not actually care. If they did we might pull back some, or all, of the money we send to these countries like Isreal and the middle east dedicate it to investigations and protections here at home. These are things we could actually do without invading another country to enforce rules we do not even enforce well at home.
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    It's trite and dismissive and it attempts to minimize the atrocity that was committed here with a blanket generalization, and you know that. That's what's wrong with your statement. :brood:
    You know what's annoying about FF? Well, one of the things that's annoying about FF? When someone from "his side" gets caught doing something indefensibly awful, something that he'd never stop raging about if "the other side" did it, and he tries to make light of it with some dismissive phrase like "all politicians are crooks" or "politicians all over the world are shitty." What a fuckin' asshole, right? :dayton:
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    Okay, who is FF? Is it someone I'd recognize?
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    AAKA the guy who makes JohnM look like a PhD candidate.
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    And, again, what makes this incident worse than the ones I've been posting about for four years now, and you don't seem to have bothered to even react to them?
    What makes you think I support the Iranian government? Or Iranian cops? Can't help but notice that you edited out my calling this a horrific incident.
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    Fuck off with your whataboutism. :shrug:
    Better than posting cynical responses attempting to dismiss or minimize those incidents. Regardless, I don't work for you. I'm under no obligation to read everything you post. :dayton:
    That would be your initial statement that prompted this exchange. I'd never imagine you saying "turns out politicians all over the world are shitty, film at 11" in response to something a Republican did.
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    Well...I would.
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    Aw, look at you. Just like FF, you're trying out a new phrase. Still can't answer the question can you? Wonder why that might be?
    Ah, yes, ignoring a problem is always the better solution. :rolleyes:
    And I don't work for you, so I'm under no obligation to post things that you find acceptable. Also, I'm not the only one posting stories about police brutality in that thread, which you'd know if you bothered to read it. You'd also know that that thread started out with FF making his stupid presuppositions, getting owned for it, and then being turned into a listing of examples of exactly why policing should be rethought.
    That's quite the stretch.
    And here, you show a remarkable lack of imagination, given your previous statement.
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    And lookie here, he's gone full FF.

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    Instead of addressing the issues I've raised, he chickens out. Not really surprising, considering that he started a thread bitching about Iraq hating on LGBTQ+ folks, thinking that it was an "own" on Iraqis, while failing to realize that Americans are big fans of promoting anti-LGBTQ+ laws in the rest of the world.

    The issue isn't one particular religion over another. The issue is religion, and anyone who doubts this can simply look up video of fights at the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. It's supposed to mark the spot where Jebus was born, and three different Christian denominations are in charge of it. They almost always get into fights over cleaning it up after Christmas services, because religion makes people dicks. Wipe out Islam, and Christians and Jews will soon quickly decide to murder one another over various spots in Israel. Wipe out all Christians, or all Jews, and the surviving followers of the now dominant religion will find reasons to murder others in the same religion because they're not religioning hard enough.

    Oh, and I need to point out that if the US hadn't decided that it needed to fuck over the democratically elected leader of Iran and hand power over to the Shah, the Iranian Revolution of 1979 probably wouldn't have happened, and religious fucksticks wouldn't be running the country now. But for some reason, dipshit isn't willing to acknowledge this. Sure, the intent of the CIA backed coup might not have been to reach this point, but it absolutely was the result of it. And until folks are willing to address such issues, then they're not going to stop happening.
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    Perhaps you're not owed anything, have you considered that? Especially since you only seem interested in deflecting from the topic in the OP.
    No, I was thinking more about the fact that the current Iraqi government wouldn't exist without the rather costly efforts of the west over the last two decades. So much blood and so much money spent there, and this is the result? Was it worth it? Does modern Iraq owe it's benefactors anything in terms of decency? They already dialed those laws back from the original death penalties, so perhaps they think they do.
    I know very well the shitty things some Americans have done in the rest of the world, but I'm not American, and what some Americans have done doesn't limit my ability to criticize anyone I wish.
    This is the politically correct answer, right? This is the answer that you imagine earns you woke good guy points? How often do you rush in to deflect and remind everyone that one particular religion isn't the issue when it's American Christians being shitty?
    How little you must think of Iranians as human beings if you learn some of them sexually assaulted and murdered a defenseless teenage girl in 2024, and your response is to blame the situation on events that happened in 1979. I believe they call this "the bigotry of low expectations." :jayzus:

    Alright, I'm done paying attention to you for now. Go ahead and call me FF, say I'm just like Dinner, maybe throw in some Dayton and Sokar references, and declare victory. Great job, buddy. :dayton:
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