Is homosexuality a choice?

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  1. Delaware

    Delaware Fresh Meat Deceased Member

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    Interested in hearing Wrodforge's thoughts on this matter.
  2. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    No, but metrosexuality is. :mad:
  3. Delaware

    Delaware Fresh Meat Deceased Member

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    I will admit that I am metrosexual by choice.

    Oldfella thinks that homosexuality is innate. What about the rest of you little critters? :marathon:
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  5. Delaware

    Delaware Fresh Meat Deceased Member

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    no
  6. Bulldog

    Bulldog Only Pawn in Game of Life

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  7. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    people are what they are. :shrug:
    sadly for this weak troll, it's probably the closest we come to consensus on anything around here.
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  8. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    The theory among scientists are that homosexuality is to do with the chemical reactions of the brain, tell us wh we are sexually attracted to. In homosexuals the chemicals that would lead them normally to have attraction to the opposite sex do not function properly, hence their attraction to the same sex. Obviously this can also apply to bisexuality.

    So, in short, I don't reckon it is a choice.
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    You tell us, Butch. :shrug:
  10. Delaware

    Delaware Fresh Meat Deceased Member

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    Finally, somebody bites! :D

    I'd have to say 'no,' but you should get it right - I really am more of a femme, sweetheart. :marathon:
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  11. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I think this scene from "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" should clear things up:



    Frank: You don't look like a gay guy.
    Dennis: Nah, that's because he's a bear.
    Mac: Huh?
    Dennis: He's a bear, you see some gay guys are twinks and other are bears, this gay guy is a bear, by the way we are totally cool with that, to each his own
    Frank: Wait i'm a little confused here, what's a twink?
    Dennis: Twink is small and slender, like mac.
    Mac: Whoa, no, I'm too muscular, I would be a bear.
    Dennis: Uhh, don't think so bro, not hairy enough.
    Frank: Smooth, now, i would be a bear.
    Dennis: No, no, i see, i don't think you'd be a bear either, as a matter of fact I don't know what you'd be, you're definitely not a twink.
    Frank: I'd be a top, that's for sure.
    Mac: Can a twink be a top, or is that reserved for bears?
    Dennis: I'm sure there's a great deal of switching back and forth but I think more often then not bears are tops, unless they happen to be power bottoms
    Frank: What's a power bottom?
    Mac: A power bottom is a bottom that is capable of receiving an enormous amount of power
    Dennis: Actually Mac, you've got it backwards, you see, the power bottom is actually generating the power by doing most of the work
    Frank: Does power have to do with size or strength of the bottom?
    Mac: Now Dennis, i heard speed has something to do with it.
    Dennis: Speed has everything to do with it, you see the speed of the bottom informs the top how much pressure he's supposed to apply, speeds the name of the game, right buddy?
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  13. cpurick

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    It's not a choice, but it is a malfunction.

    And if you choose not to have normal people treating you differently because of your malfunction, then keep it to yourself.
  14. skinofevil

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    Yup. If you don't want to be called a freak, don't wear the fuckin' sign.
  15. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    It's not an either/or question. I think Kinsey was basically right, though I dispute whether sexuality is a bell curve. I tend to think there are more individuals hardwired to heterosexuality than homosexuality, unlike Kinsey. Not a vast preponderance, but the fact civilization exists and we continue to pump out kids I think lends credence to that idea.

    And some people are modified by environment - I'm aware of a couple of gay men that were molested as children that had a great deal of difficulty accepting the fact that their initial pleasure centers were molded by a despicable crime and were self-loathing for many years before accepting it. It's been pretty much established that neural connections are made during your formative years. This is no doubt a very small percentage of overall sexual formation, but it does exist.

    So overall I'd say as we say that homosexual activity is OK we'll see more people engage in homosexual acts (even if they are bisexual), because there is a significant proportion of the population that likely doesn't simply because of the strong anti-gay culture in America.

    In places such as Britain it's more common as there's quite a bit of tolerance.

    God save the Queens! :D
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    Malfunction? "Normal" people? Thank God some people don't give a flying fuck about being "normal"... :facepalm:
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  17. Ten Lubak

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    I don't care who people fuck or why they do it, as long as they aren't harming anyone. None of my business - just make sure you're having a good time, eh.

    People who care about this sort of thing really need to get over themselves and probably should focus more on their own sex lives. :shrug:
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  18. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Doubt it's a "choice." Mostly. I'm sure there's a few folks out there who take to wonderin' and then follow up with experimentation.

    Anyway, homosexuality is almost certainly a combination of nature/nurture much more than it is a conscious (or even unconscious) choice. Probably something to do with brain chemistry and/or structure. As a "pure" homosexual would never produce offspring, and given the apparently somewhat common appearance of homosexuality in the general population, it also can't be purely predetermined by genetics or it would have "bred out" of humanity some time ago, or at least be much less common than it is. I mean, I've always heard that some homosexuals who are not open about their alignment assume a "cover" lifestyle complete with spouse and kids, so at least some of them produce offspring. But it seems to be a mushy kind of thing in general, so who knows?
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    Probably a neurochemical switch that gets tripped when population density gets too high. Nature's way of saying, "Too much homogeneity in the local gene pool, time for you fuckers to slow the hell down." Like inbreeding Lite(tm). Not as extreme as toe-headed 18-fingered mongoloid offspring, but headed in that direction.
  20. RickDeckard

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    It's certainly not a choice in the sense of someone thinking "hey, I think I'll like men instead of women."
  21. The Exception

    The Exception The One Who Will Be Administrator Super Moderator

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    So I should treat you differently because you lack basic empathy? Okay.
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  22. Tamar Garish

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    The attraction is not a choice. The acts, just like for hets, are a choice.

    As for Carolvs Delaware, it's a Fa'afafine.
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  23. Uncle Albert

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    Not for you or I, but everyone?

    We can't possibly know that.
  24. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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  25. Tamar Garish

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    Considering attraction is a chemical reaction, I don't see how it can be a choice. :eyebrow:
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  26. Nova

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    as I mentioned, or alluded to, elsewhere - one shouldn't allow the rare aberrational situation define the whole demographic.

    ARE there those who were perhaps "warped" by having been molested or something? Sure. there are also those who were perhaps affected by fetishistic activities (one would assume largely a variation of D/s activities) but again, as a percentage of the whole, these are few enough to be irrelevant to an observation made about homosexuality in general (especially since it doesn't really say anything about being lesbian)

    the problem is that in the ill-informed perception of some, because these unusual cases exist, they extrapolate that into a conclusion about all homosexual people.

    That's poor reasoning.
  27. Lethesoda

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    I approve of this statement.

    I can only say that, in my case, it wasn't a choice.
  28. Beck

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    short answer: No.
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  29. Bickendan

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    TheLonelySquire would have loved this thread :bergman:
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  30. Uncle Albert

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    I say that's an oversimplification. You're reducing a person's entire personality to "chemical reaction," and who you are is not dictated wholly by chemicals bouncing around inside your skull.
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