Is kissing considered cheating?

Yes kissing is cheating, but blowjobs aren't. I learned that from our last president.

One of the many, many things that we have to thank Bill Clinton for.

Liberation of the blow job. I, for one, cannot wait to see the statue memorializing this accomplishment in the Mall in D.C.

Odd, I'd heard it'd be a fountain.

To Sokar:

Of course there are rules. I would imagine one might be, besides approval, the SO has to be in the room and anything that makes the other one uncomfortable is immediately stopped. Even if that means stopping in the middle and leaving.

I know a couple (no not me) who she doesn't get to swallow with anyone but her husband. The rules are different for everyone.

Something people tend to forget with the Clintons. Maybe the only rule was "don't get caught."

Sigh. Monogamy is sooooo boring.

That's really a safety thing IMO (AIDS in body fluids and so forth).

So you're still allowed to swallow?

So...EP...

Who did you kiss?

Ummm...if you have open sores in your mouth, yes. But she made it sound like it was a personal decision between her and her husband to keep that just for themselves (him )

I wouldn't for anyone else but flow.

Yes, but what about

No. My woman is mine, and I'm hers.

Anyone touches her in ANY inappropriate way, I will end them. Always been that way. Back in high school I rammed a guy face-first into a chalkboard cause he got too cozy with my girl. And I don't regret it one bit.

Thank God I'm with a lady now who feels the exact same way. It's refreshing to know that I never, ever have to worry about her, and vice versa.

And EP: It's cheating. Either stay with your wife, or divorce her. Anything else and you deserve to be beaten by her with a crowbar.

I'm not seeing the connection between raging jealousy and trust.

:Shrug: Eh. The trust is more on the line of knowing my fiancee isn't gonna go out to see a movie with some random guy from work.

The raging jealousy, well, I wouldn't call it jealousy, more like it was an insult to me. The guy knows I'm with the girl, guy decides to get touchy-feely with her anyway, guy then finds out why he shouldn't do so.

Well, I didn't launch into the WHOLE story because I didn't think, considering Sokar's similar opinion, that it would be such a lynchpin.

The girl did NOT encourage it. But he would still try putting the moves on her. Give her those warm hugs in the morning. Stroke her hair, that kind of shit. She was just too nice to be out-and-out rude to him and say "Back the fuck off". And he knew it pissed me off, so he liked to see how far he could push me. The answer, of course, was not very far.

Bleh. Didn't want to go into that whole speil, but eh, there it is

Frontline's right. If dude gets touchy-feely with your lady and doesn't find out from HER that he's crossed the line, it's time for you to listen to some Paul Simon for inspiration on what to do next, cuz he listed at least 50 ways...

I found that southern girls were that way. A NYC chick whould set the mug straight.

But when I was down south the girls were just too polite.....or dumb. You could tell the guy ya with someone...but noooooooo.

I found that they WANTED the guy to speak up.....or get in a fight. It was up to the guy to tell the other guy to fuck off.

I've enjoyed watching girlfriends of mine in the past tell guys to buzz off, beat it, scram!

And trust is different from swinging.

If you are swinging you know what the other is doing, and you TRUST them not to do it at other times. At least from what I've observed, most swingers don't just go out and screw whoever, whenever, the timing and swap-mates are picked out mutually.

I am in a monogamous relationship, if he were to have sexual relations with another woman, I would maim him. (financially or physically who knows ) However if I give him permission and the rules we set down are followed it's all fun and games.

If a guy got touchy feely with me, I'd make sure he knew to stop. If he ever did it in front of flow.....who knows what he would do.

I know for a fact he'd be pissed and anything else, it hasn't been tested.

Now, if my girl tells a dude to stop and he doesn't? I'll then be properly motivated to give him an attitude adjustment, because after she's told him to stop, it's legally and ethically unwanted initiation of force on his end.

"I was defending a third person, your honor."

When you're in the harem of an imposing physical specimen like me, you can expect not to be hassled.

That's just how I roll. I thought you'd be used to it by now.

I guess it's just accepted these days that any number of things would be enough to make me go off on a rampage.

True, if you're talking about telling the guy off. However, if she's already told him to fuck off and he hasn't ,that changes the ball game for me.

My girl, your wife, and any number of the WF ladies are more than capable of defending themselves. However, they shouldn't have to if I'm around.

If you're there, then all she should have to say is "Elwood, handle my light work." Clarity of communication is a good thing.

No one. I am alone. Just thinking and that came to mind. I love deep kissing, especially with a santas helper under the mistletoe. Thats a hot av

Must not make "yule log" joke..... won't do it.....