Jordan Peterson is not an evolutionary biologist.

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  1. matthunter

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    Geez you are fucked in the head, aren’t you. My sister in law painted my nephews nails when he was a toddler and my youngest brother refused to wear “boy clothes” until he started school. Bother are just the normal fucked up and neither are trans.

    When you have kids, we’ll talk. Until then stop talking about raising children. Because you know absolutely nothing about it.
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    I'd love to hear FF's rationale as to why kids aren't warped by all the glitter and sequins in kindergarten.
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    When I was a toddler, for a time my favourite toy was apparently a doll and toy pram (encouraged by my very Christian mother).

    As you say, children of that age have a much more flexible understanding of sex and gender so what harm do you think is being done by not forcing them to wear pink or blue as fashion dictates?
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    As well as 100+ years ago, fashion dictated boys wear pink.
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    Well, you did grow up to be a vegetarian, so I wouldn’t say you weren’t harmed by that. ;)
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    This could go in either the Rogan thread or here, but I'll put it here because reasons.

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    I bet that 9% is feminist podcasters cutting up the footage for yuks.
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    Whoops, guess I put his Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition tantrum in the wrong thread.
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    Ummm…. So dude apparently has some issues.

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    (As JP typing)
    "Oh!! And the granny's pubes dream! That's totally going in the book! :polarslam2: :whacko:".
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    Do you know how many drugs I am going to have to do to erase that from my memory? Because I don't and I really need a recommendation as to where to start. I have read some demented furry porn from abuse victims, but

    I have a feeling I am going to need a few grams of fentanyl. My sick mind will not let go of that image without pure paralysis.
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    This is a bit old, but Rogan doesn't have any problem describing himself as white despite being pretty fucking pink.
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    If we give all the transphobic men a card that says "you can still spank it to 20-year-old Elliot Page as Ellen playing a pregnant high school girl in Juno and not be gay," will they shut up and quit whining?

    Via Wonkette:

    Will No One Think Of How Elliot Page's Abs Have Directly Hurt Poor Jordan Peterson?

    Jordan Peterson first skyrocketed to medium fame by being a dick to trans students in his class, so it is hardly any surprise that he is still clutching onto that rickety ass door frame for dear life. He's spent the last few weeks on Twitter bitching about women failing to comply with his attractiveness standards and also trans people existing. It's really unfair to him! People just going around living their lives or feeling good about themselves without even asking him if that would be okay with him. Is that freedom? Is this the future liberals want?

    In late June, Peterson was suspended from Twitter for a completely bananapants tweet in which he opined "Remember when "pride" was a sin?," dead-named actor Elliot Page and raged against the "criminal physician" who removed his breasts. He was then informed that he could get his account back if he deleted the tweet, but Peterson refused, saying he would "rather die." (he later deleted it, so perhaps that was not entirely true)

    On Friday, Peterson doubled down again on this nonsense in an interview with Kyle Kulinski on the podcast Krystal Kyle and Friends. When asked by Kulinski how exactly he considered her physician a criminal when it is entirely legal to perform such a surgery.

    “So my question is the physician really criminal? If you agree that adults can decide to transition, then why would the physician be criminal? Don’t adults have that right?” Kulinski asked.

    “Not everything legal isn’t criminal," Peterson explained, clearly not recognizing how words work. "And do they have that right. See, I would’ve left [Elliot] Page alone if [he] hadn’t been parading [his] new abs in a fashion magazine. How many kids do you think [he] convinced to convert? One? A thousand?”

    The only possible answer here is "literally zero" because of how you can't "convert" people to be trans.

    The implication is clear, though — Elliot Page struck the first blow by posing in a magazine and just existing in public and having abs, and poor, pitiful Jordan Peterson was just doing self-defense. Perhaps the real question is "How many people are just going to pose for magazines without even bothering to ask Jordan Peterson if he is okay with them doing so? One? A thousand?"

    This, by the way, would be what he was referring to:

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    Unless someone actually is transgender, they're not going to look at that and go "Oh wow, that could be me!" any more than they'd look at any picture of any other man and go "Oh wow, that could be me!"

    Kulinski then pointed out to Peterson that many years ago people believed that if gay people were publicly acknowledged that it would result in all of the children deciding to have same-sex relationships, "but really what happened is people are who they are."

    A very agitated Peterson interrupted him and said "That is what happened" while Kulinski continued saying that the reason more people came out was because it was safer to do so.

    “No! That’s not what happened! You’re completely wrong! You’re utterly wrong! There's nothing about that that's right!” Peterson desperately cried.

    He then went on a whole ass diatribe about how he knew from the very beginning when he was asked to use someone's correct pronouns in a classroom that this whole thing was just going to be a "psychogenic" fad and it was going to lead thousands of vulnerable adolescent girls to decide they want to be trans and to go through with major surgery and yadda yadda yadda. He seemed most concerned about adolescent girls, perhaps due to his interest in "redistributing sex" in order to prevent incel murder sprees.

    Jordan Peterson, I assure you, knows fuckall about teenage girls.

    As someone who was once a teenage girl who went through multiple phases (one of which involved wearing butterfly wings on the regular, plus a few others that were even more deeply embarrassing than that), I will absolutely confirm that during adolescence, widely regarded to be the "age of obsession," a lot girls do absolutely go through phases and get all "this is who I AM!" about personas they decided to adopt all of 12 minutes ago. I will not deny that. What I will vehemently deny, however, is that any of them last as long as would be necessary to convince psychologists and do everything it takes in order to qualify for any kind of gender affirmation surgery.

    And thank goodness for that because then we can always say "Oh, I don't know what you're talking about, clearly I am far too cool to have ever listened to Dashboard Confessional."

    The thread that ties all of Peterson's absurd beliefs together is that he very much believes that he has a certain ownership over women's bodies and, indeed, any body coded as female. He believes he should get to tell us how to look, whether or not we can feel good about ourselves and our bodies, who we should be allowed to (or forced to) have sex with and even what gender we are allowed to be. If a person who is assigned female at birth realizes they are male and wants to transition, he sees that as them taking something away from him.

    What rang clear throughout this interview is that Peterson is truly a sad, pathetic, venomous creature. He has absolutely no interest in listening to anyone or having his beliefs interrogated, he just very desperately wants to believe he is right and for other people to simply take his word for it that he is right. If people were half as malleable in the way as Peterson claims they are, one would have to imagine that they would be more likely to just go along with the people like him who are pressuring them to fit into a particular mold instead of those of us who are saying "Hey, be whoever you are, that's fine with us!"​
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    I wish I could say the covid and the benzos made him this koo-koo-pants, but this is standard Peterson.
    :rolleyes: :sigh:
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    I'll see your "Elliot Page playing a pregnant girl in Juno," and raise you Elliot Page involved with someone seemingly modeled after Jeffery Epstein.



    Elliot Page, putting the "hard" in "Hard Candy."
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    Someone needs to check that guy's computer for his kiddie porn stash. Spanking to Juno is pretty much admitting you are the chomo.
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    I'm not sure what other conclusion to reach from the transphobes howling on Twitter about how Ellen Page is being "taken away from them" and Jordan Peterson's particular focus on how terrible it would be if any adolescent girls ceased to be girls ...

    That said, Juno is an awesome movie, I don't care that the high school characters all talk like 30-year-old screenwriters, and Allison Janney is fan-damn-tastic.
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    Yeah, but you do not se Juno and need to rub one out like JP and the boy.
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    Elliot Page is ripped, holy shit. But I still can't help but think he looks like a young Justin Bieber.
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    Why are all these snowflakes pissed off at Elliot page using the made up surname of the "Trump" family. That is just the name they want us to call them when their real last name was drumpf.