libertarians don't expect to make great contributions to society which is why they do not want regs

The general libertarian is a worker bee, and they want to be able to grift surf their ways through life on other people's powers. If you really have a revolutionary idea you have to have protections from the corporations and other who would steal your ideas and use them for their own advancement. It still happens today.



In the example above the ihe world knew a blue LED would change lighting in so many ways. One man figured out how despite his corporation telling him not to, and when he did give them the golden patent that no one was able to make for thirty years opening up a whole new world of manufacturing and products, including the one you are reading this on now, they took it from him and gave him 170 dollars because it was in Japan and they are much more libertarian in regards to worker's rights.

UA and FF will never make a revolutionary product that a corporation will steal and use to dominate markets based on their invention, so they do not get how horrible such theft is. People like Elon Musk make themselves look great by marketing other people's ideas that they would never have come up with, and people form cults around them and call them geniuses while they do nothing.

This is the key ignorance of libertarianism. You need courts and a government to protect your future with your great ideas from monied thieves who look to take it from you for far less than you deserve. This is the core belief of the republican dictatorship the right wing is trying to push. Yes, we need much more socialism in the mic.

For a split second, I saw "regs" as "legs" and I was desperately hoping you'd come up with a logical framework to saw their legs off.


"Don't wanna pay taxes? Don't want state funded after school programs? No legs! No legs for you! We'll glue 'em back on when you can play nice. ".

If we cut FF's legs off how would he be able to serve the customers at his subway?

they understand 'liberty", jsut not "responsibility"...

"Responsibility " is not a blank check for you to leech off the productivity of others, dickhead.

only person whoever claimed it was was you, so...

Yes, I'm sure there is no end to the ways you can rationalize someone else paying your bills.

says the guy who thinks a functioning society just magically maintains itself.

show examples please?

at least here you're only lying to yourself...

Because 18th century economists assumed all humans are rational actors, and that it followed if robber barons conquered the world, they'd protect the world to keep the money flowing.
And 21st century Repugs still believe this shit like a religion.
No, dumber than religion. Santa believing children.
In spite of 200 years of psychology, and history, and self-immolating idiots like Elon and Andrew Tate to point to.

I must have missed a tweet or two. Fuck you @Tuckerfan , you had one fucking job and tou missed the tweets where Tate and Musk burned themselves alive.


I do hope these self immolations are not some hyperbole made to get my hopes up about some fantasy of mine coming true.

Nope. I understand the concept of pay to play.

Examples of taxpayers being forced to pay other people's bills? Bad faith question. Just skip to your semi literate rationalizing.

so as always, you got nothing... It's kind of amazing how many questions you cower from answering.

You've been shown a hundred times how the post reagan era has resulted in a concentration of wealth with those who do nothing for it other than claim "ownership", but are all too happy to let those who they've taken from go without.

It's likewise been explained how the changes required to alleviate poverty wouldn't cost folks in our economic strata anything worthy of mention. But you'd rather we spend MORE on enforcement and incarceration than actually fixing the problems people face-again, something that's been demonstrated to be more cost effective both immediately and long term.


Stupidity or sadism-which is it?

You honestly need me to describe social welfare to you, and you're totally not playing annoying little games.

"Taken" from. I'm not "happy" about any of it, but I recognize the fact that it does not matter how I feel about it. And no, keeping something of mine that you think you need more than me is not "taking" it from you. Property is not theft, and need is not entitlement.

You don't get to decide what is worthy of mention for anyone else. But at least you're now admitting you were being dishonest with your innocent questions about the nature of the welfare state.

Personal accountability.

you wouldn't know the concept if it bit you an the ass.

Based on some retarded bullshit that makes me responsible for your delicate fucking emotional state, no doubt.

I earn my keep and accept the consequences of my-and ONLY my-choices. If you define it beyond that, you are describing an entirely different concept.

Tell us about how the quarter minute long pronoun scene in Discovery ruined the whole franchise.

Right after you point where I have claimed they victimized me, and that they are responsible for anything I do in my state of dire emotional distress.

Or else you could go fuck yourself with your predictable false comparisons.

Where does Spaceturkey say you did that?
That's your original claim, that he's the one with the delicate sensibilities.
Now you stipulate a whole victim thing.
Where does he say you victimized him?
"I just bet.." and "probably.." and "what he really means.." don't count.

It's his whole "good person empathy" schtick. I'm not "responsible" unless I accept some liability for the emotional state of other people when I offend them. That's where he is always going with this silly bullshit.

So "it's a feeling in my tummy".
Like your transphobia.

Nope. Direct experience.

And refusing to pander and affirm is not "phobia."

Then call Chuck Norris Carlos, or you're picking and choosing, and it is transphobia.

Is that meant to articulate something meaningful there, chucklefuck?

Sorry, he was meant to post something from early TNG Ferengi where simply being "clever" gets you profit. We should be aware you can't handle Quark-level Ferengi or other more advanced concepts like "welders need people to be producing shit that requires welding".

Otherwise you're just pushing two bits of metal together and making them kiss, like Dark Helmet with his dolls.

Mutually beneficial exchange is not a gift or any kind of unequal dependence. Nor does your cute little scenario compare in any useful way to a person receiving unearned benefits from their more productive neighbor.

Nor does your antisocial scenario admit that helping a temporarily unproductive person can result in longer term benefits for all their neighbours - who, I note, you chose to pretend are contributing individually, rather than collectively and thus only paying fractions of cents on the dollar.

Googling "famous folk who were on welfare" shows quite a few fucking hypocrites, BTW. Ben Carson stands out like an unwanted erection at a funeral.

I have witnessed too many idle shitbags who think the world owes them a living to offer the benefit of the doubt. I must personally see that you are physically incapable of supporting yourself before we talk about the disposition of anything I earn.

Is this meant to convey anything besides butthurt?

And yet most of them are at the rich end of the spectrum, and your tongue is firmly lodged up their rectums. Or at the least, you'll shrug and say "I don't like it, but...".

You always choose to punch down.

Even though you're pretty low on the ladder.

One might ask why that is, and one might reasonably come up with the answer "useful idiot for the rich".

And no, I'm not butthurt over Ben Carson financially. I live far more comfortably than most, though some of that comes at the expense of being single and childless. I'd rather murder my own kids if the alternative was being Ben Carson though.

Someone's kids, at least.

Not interested in the weird fantasies you choose to believe.

Right. I never objected to things like corporate bailouts.

"Where?!?!"

Search function, bitch.

More of your fantasies.

Yeah, you don't sound bitter at all.