Loser wanna be Peter David can't pay the rent.

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  1. Chardman

    Chardman An image macro is worth 1000 words. Deceased Member

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    Right, because the phrase originated with me. Before I walked the Earth, no one had ever suggested to another that they take their own life. Thank you for noticing, and giving credit where credit is due.
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  2. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Please do us a favor and kill yourself.
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Pretty sure it's a Faceman classic, but Flashy delighted in its use too.
    They had joint custody for awhile.
    Hence its appropriateness in my post.
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  4. Chardman

    Chardman An image macro is worth 1000 words. Deceased Member

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    Well it's a lot older than that. I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say I'm pretty sure its first usage probably predates Socrates snuffing it.
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  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Did anyone other than Flashy fail to understand Post #34? Yeah, didn’t think so. I’ll be happy to take any follow-up questions. :)
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  6. The Flashlight

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    That's all very informative, and I assume "KRAD" ( :rolleyes: ) is also well aware of it, being a 20-year veteran of the industry. So you'd think that after 20 years of publishing, he'd have gotten things worked out to the point where there wouldn't be extended periods of time without money coming in, that he'd have a steady stream of projects in the pipeline to guard against going six months without an income. Because, as a 20-year veteran, he knows all about the inconsistent nature of freelance work, right Garamet? Or is he just incompetent in terms of managing his finances? You'd think that, knowing all about the unpredictable nature of freelance work, he'd have a savings account for these down times, right?

    You see, you silly cunt, the question isn't whether *I* understand anything about freelance work and the publishing industry, it's whether, after 20 years, *DeCandido* understands anything about it.

    Yes yes, you and your "midlist" brethren are victims of an unfair and inequitable system. Let's all feel sorry for poor, poor Garamet, a sheep amongst wolves.

    Nobody ever said every writer is Stephen King. You need to put more effort into your strawmen. But I take note of your intense jealousy towards any writer who has achieved more success than yourself. I suppose if you write a string of novels that have strains of genius running through them that become cultural touchstones, you may be "Stephen King" yourself one day.

    Yes, but they're not all on GoFundMe panhandling for rent money.

    Why is it you presume to be on a first name / nickname basis with other writers?

    And my point, which predictably sailed over your head, was that obviously he wasn't making enough money doing this, or selling his autograph, to pay the rent.

    If hubby's career was that unstable, then wifey should have been out working all along.

    Does Garamet really think the rest of us don't understand the concept of rent? Diacanu the notable exception, of course....

    Nobody questioned whether he was being accurate in listing his previous clients. Again, the point was that despite this array of impressive experience and clientele, he's now panhandling for cash.

    Hmmmm.......well, whatever work I've been paid for in my life, it's been my work. I've never been paid for work that I fucked up and someone else had to come in and clean up my mess. So you can be assured, if you're eating deep fried cheese sticks, I'm the one who lowered the wire basket into the grease. :)

    Translation: your editors know it sucks and aren't willing to take a chance on it. If they were, you wouldn't be forced to offer it for free to drum up interest. Out of curiosity, did you offer to let DeCandido edit it, so you could give him some paying work?

    And if you were concerned about preserving anything positive of your professional reputation, I wouldn't thank me for bring attention to that literary abortion.

    What does this have to do with DeCandido?

    Regardless, you're not just offering a sneak peek at the first chapter, you've put the whole book out there. That's an act of desperation.

    We've covered this before. You need the attention, if nobody was "stalking" you, that would mean you weren't important anymore.

    One of the things that's always fascinated me about Garamet is her need for self-mythologization.

    She's not just a "midlist" writer who's been lucky enough to publish a few books. No, she's a practitioner of an arcane and mysterious sorcery called "publishing" that we mere mortals simply can't comprehend. :dayton:

    So she proceeds to melodramatically explain the most basic & mundane concepts, acting like she's Merlin revealing the secrets of The Dragon to Morgana. :lol:

    I suppose her life is so unfulfilling she needs this extra dimension of imaginary significance to make everything seem worthwhile. It's fascinating. Her contempt for own life is palpable, her contempt for her fan base is well documented. Despite this, she clings to the identity of the "midlist" writer because it allows her to indulge her victim fantasy. Yes, victimhood is an integral part of her psychological makeup. In her telling, poor Garamet was victimized by multiple evil, malevolent people who all conspired against her in the Probe debacle. More generally, she's victimized by an inequitable publishing world apparatus that takes advantage of "midlist" writers who lack negotiating leverage. And because of this supposed inequity, Garamet feverishly defends a 20-year veteran of the publishing industry who has had his work marketed across multiple platforms, yet has somehow mismanaged his financial affairs to the point where he has to panhandle for rent money.
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  7. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    For those of you who looked at the above Flashlight post and concluded TLDR, good choice. I made the mistake of reading it, so I can offer this service. The whole thing boils down to this:

    Flashlight has finally admitted his actual profession. He's a fry cook, and a damn good one.

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  8. Dayton Kitchens

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    I thought in another thread, that Garamet said that after you had five reasonably successful books published you could then pretty much live on the proceeds from them.

    I don't remember for sure but I thought KRAD had more than five books published.
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  9. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    For those who just noticed Dul's post yet chose not to read it, let me reassure you he has nothing of any significance to say, as per usual.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Why would you belittle honest work?
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  11. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Wow, that really nailed me there, flashlight fry boy.
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  12. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Uh, metaphor?
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  13. The Flashlight

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    Yes, she did say that. Not that she'll admit it now, as it contradicts her current....arguments? Exactly what is she arguing here?

    You know what DeCandido could have offered that would have really made donating to him worthwhile? If you donated $500, he would offer to read your manuscript and constructively critique it, give you pointers, talk to you about how you could improve it to make it marketable. As a published author who has a wealth of editing experience, that would have definitely been worth the money, IMHO. Harry Knowles of AICN offered something similar during his infamous Kickstarter campaign - send me your screenplay and I'll critique it.

    Instead he offers to give you access to a lame PDF.

    I'm genuinely surprised Garamet has chosen to hitch her wagon to this horse.
  14. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I wouldn't have said that, because there are too many variables. What kind of books, in what genre? Standalones or part of a series? What advance amounts, delivered on what schedule? What royalty percentage? Foreign rights? Reprints? Tie-ins to other media (that's where the big bucks are)? And after those five novels, then what? Like the movie industry, the book business is all about "What have you done for me lately?"

    ETA: Flashy will now link to where he thinks I said that. :waiting:
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  15. The Flashlight

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    Translation: "I did say what Dayton remembers me saying, but I'm not going to admit it. I'm going to vomit up a bunch of verbal diarrhea to muddy the waters, but make no mistake, I did say it."
  16. gul

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    Yeah, no, I don't think so. It doesn't actually work as a metaphor. He used it to illustrate that he's a hard worker. Why pick a job he doesn't do? That would pretty much counter the entire point.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Metaphor. It's a response to garamet's Deep Fryer Degreaser jab immediately before.

    But, whatever. *This* is not something I'm going to waste time and energy arguing today. I gotta go slay some dragons.

    And, no, I am not literally a dragon-slayer.
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  18. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If I did say it, it would be very easy for Flashy to find it. Instead:

    "Ma nishtanah ha-laylah ha-ze mi kol ha-leylot?"
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    Moron.

    The point being made is that, whatever I do for a living (and I derive no small amount of pleasure from you fools not knowing exactly what that entails), the work I'm paid for is my own, not somebody else's work that gets passed off as mine.

    But, you already knew all that. You're still burdened with the delusion that just because you intentionally misstate and/or misrepresent what someone else says, you're making an intelligent argument. Capt. PsyOps been instructing you in his ways?
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    Poor woman. Lewy body dementia is a bitch. :jayzus:
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Flashlight is clearly bothered that he outed himself. As Dayton asked, why belittle honest work? Embrace it, fry boy, take pride in your place.

    Also, I can't be a moron and "already know all that."
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  22. Dayton Kitchens

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    According to my research Keith DeCandidio has written no less than FIFTEEN Star Trek novels alone. And that represents only about one quarter of his entire officially published output.

    Again, how does someone that successful end up hard for cash?
  23. The Flashlight

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    This is what Wikipedia lists as his published works:

    Star Trek novels[edit]
    Star Trek novellas, short stories, comic books, etc.[edit]
    Star Trek eBooks[edit]
    • S.C.E. (Starfleet Corps of Engineers) series (2000–2006)
      • Fatal Error (2000)
      • Cold Fusion (2001)
      • Invincible Books 1-2 (w/David Mack, 2001)
      • Gateways epilogue: Here There Be Monsters (2001)
      • War Stories Books 1-2 (2002)
      • Breakdowns (2003)
      • Security (2005)
      • What's Past Book 6: Many Splendors (2006)
    • The Next Generation - Slings and Arrows Book 6: Enterprises of Great Pitch and Moment (2008)
    Precinct novels[edit]
    Other novels[edit]
    Novelizations[edit]
    Short story collections[edit]
    Other comic books[edit]
    • Farscape: The Beginning of the End of the Beginning (cowritten with Rockne S. O'Bannon, art by Tommy Patterson, four-issue miniseries, December 2008-April 2009)
    • Farscape: Strange Detractors (cowritten with O'Bannon, art by Will Sliney, four-issue miniseries, April–July 2009)
    • Farscape: D'Argo's Lament (art by Neil Edwards, four-issue miniseries, April–July 2009)
    • Farscape: Gone and Back (cowritten with O'Bannon, art by Patterson, July–October 2009)
    • Farscape: D'Argo's Trial (art by Caleb Cleveland, August–November 2009)
    • Farscape (monthly series, cowritten with O'Bannon, art by Sliney, November 2009–October 2011)
    • Farscape: D'Argo's Quest (art by Cleveland, December 2009-March 2010)
    • StarCraft: Ghost Academy Volume 1 (manga, art by Fernando Furukawa, 2010)
    • Cars: Adventures of Tow Mater #1-4 (art by Travis Hill, four-issue story arc, August–November 2010)
    • Kung Fu Panda: Tales of the Dragon Warrior #1 (art by Massimo Asaro, backup story, forthcoming)
    Short stories[edit]
    • "An Evening in the Bronx with Venom" in The Ultimate Spider-Man (1994), ISBN 1-57297-103-7, with John Gregory Betancourt
    • "Improper Procedure" in The Ultimate Silver Surfer (1995), ISBN 1-57297-299-8
    • "God Sins" in Magic: The Gathering: Distant Planes (1995), ISBN 0-06-105765-7
    • "UNITed We Fall" in Doctor Who: Decalog 3: Consequences (1996), ISBN 0-426-20478-6
    • "Arms and the Man" in Untold Tales of Spider-Man (1997), ISBN 1-57297-294-7
    • "How You Can Prevent Forest Fires" in Urban Nightmares (1997; reprinted in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet, 2013), ISBN 0-671-87851-4
    • "A Bone to Pick" in Did You Say Chicks?! (1997), ISBN 0-671-87867-0, with Marina Frants
    • "Playing It SAFE" in The Ultimate Hulk (1998), ISBN 0-425-16513-2
    • "Diary of a False Man" in X-Men: Legends (2000), ISBN 0-425-17082-9
    • "Raymond's Room" in Doctor Who: Missing Pieces (2001)
    • "Recurring Character" in The Further Adventures of Xena: Warrior Princess (2001), ISBN 0-441-00852-6
    • "Getting the Chair" in Murder by Magic (2004; reprinted in Tales from Dragon Precinct, 2013), ISBN 0-446-67962-3, set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct
    • "A Vampire and a Vampire Hunter Walk Into a Bar" in Amazing Stories #608 (2005; reprinted in The Town Drunk, 2006; reprinted in Without a License, 2015)
    • "Editorial Interference" in Circles in the Hair (2006; reprinted in Without a License, 2015)
    • "Crime of Passion" in Hear Them Roar (2006; reprinted in Tales from Dragon Precinct, 2013), ISBN 0-9773040-1-9, set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct
    • "Sunday in the Park with Spot" in Furry Fantastic (2006; reprinted in Without a License, 2015), ISBN 0-7564-0381-2
    • "House Arrest" in Bad-Ass Faeries (2007; reprinted in Tales from Dragon Precinct, 2013), set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct
    • "Life from Lifelessness" in Doctor Who: Short Trips: Destination Prague (2007)
    • "A Clean Getaway" in Pandora's Closet (2007; reprinted in Tales from Dragon Precinct, 2013), set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct
    • "Meiyo" on the Battlecorps.com web site (2008)
    • "Three Sides to Every Story" in BattleTech: 25 Years of Art and Fiction (2009)
    • "Fire in the Hole" in Dragon's Lure (2010; reprinted in Tales from Dragon Precinct, 2013), set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct
    • "Letter from Guadalajara" in More Tales of Zorro (2011)
    • "Under the King's Bridge" in Liar Liar: Short Stories from Members of the Liars Club (2011; reprinted in Without a License, 2015)
    • "Ragnarok and Roll" in Tales from the House Band Volume 1 (2011; reprinted in Apocalypse 13, 2012, and in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet, 2013)
    • -30-, part of the Viral series (2012; reprinted in Without a License, 2015), with Steven Savile
    • "The Ballad of Big Charlie" in V-Wars (2012; reprinted in Without a License, 2015)
    • "When the Magick Goes Away," released to Kickstarter supporters only (2012; reprinted in Tales from Dragon Precinct, 2013)
    • "I Believe I'm Sinkin' Down" in Tales from the House Band Volume 2 (2012; reprinted in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet, 2013)
    • "The Stone of the First High Pontiff" in Defending the Future: Best-Laid Plans (2013; reprinted in Without a License, 2015)
    • "Catch and Release" in Tales from Dragon Precinct (2013)
    • "Brotherly Love" in Tales from Dragon Precinct (2013)
    • "Blood in the Water" in Tales from Dragon Precinct (2013)
    • "Heroes Welcome" in Tales from Dragon Precinct (2013)
    • "Undine the Boardwalk" in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet (2013; reprinted in Bad-Ass Faeries: It's Elemental, 2014)
    • "Love Over and Over" in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet (2013)
    • "Cayo Hueso Part 1: A Farewell to Cats" in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet (2013)
    • "Cayo Hueso Part 2: The Buck Stops Here" in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet (2013)
    • "Cayo Hueso Part 3: Twisting Fate" in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet (2013)
    • "God of Blunder" in Ragnarok and Roll: Tales of Cassie Zukav, Weirdness Magnet (2013)
    • "Gan Brightblade vs. Mitos the Mighty," released to Kickstarter supporters (2014), set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct
    • "Stone Cold Whodunit" in With Great Power (2014)
    • "Fish Out of Water" in Out of Tune (2014)
    • "Time Keeps on Slippin'" in Stargate SG-1/Stargate Atlantis: Far Horizons (2014)
    • "Down to the Waterline" in Buzzy Mag Online (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Partners in Crime" in Without a License: The Fantastic Worlds of Keith R.A. DeCandido (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Seven-Mile Race" in Without a License: The Fantastic Worlds of Keith R.A. DeCandido (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Wild Bill Got Shot" in Without a License: The Fantastic Worlds of Keith R.A. DeCandido (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Behold a White Tricycle" in Without a License: The Fantastic Worlds of Keith R.A. DeCandido (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Back in El Paso My Life Will Be Worthless" in The X-Files: Trust No One (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Streets of Fire" in V-Wars: Night Terrors (forthcoming in 2015)
    • "Baker's Dozen," released to Kickstarter supporters (forthcoming in 2015), set in the same universe as Dragon Precinct

    Hardly a babe in the woods, hardly someone who wouldn't be aware of the realities of freelance work. In fact, he's published more than Garamet, and in a wider array of mediums.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    My condolences. But does she still make you mini-pizzas?

    Flashy will now link to the post where I supposedly said what he claims I said.
  25. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    If you read the original article, you'd see that it wasn't a matter of lack of cash, but of cash flow. He had several deals in the pipeline and the people responsible for countersigning the contracts and cutting the checks were dragging their asses. This is surprisingly common. Q.v. what I said about the class action suit against Pocket in Post #34.

    It's not the same as getting a paycheck every week.
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    That's a question we ultimately won't get an answer to, but we *will* continue to get a string of silly attacks by Margaret and Dul about how anyone who dares to ask this question is dumb. :rolleyes: :lol:
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    My goodness. I haven't been here for months, but you still miss me. :aww:
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    FryBoy™ is actually right about this writer. Just about all crowd funding campaigns are a con, this is no different. But it has the added spectacle of somebody who should have his own resources convincing people of his need.

    Broken clock and all that.
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    I get paid monthly garamet.

    I know a great deal about cash flow.
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    I wonder how long Dul is going to flog the "FryBoy" thing? He obviously thinks it's terribly clever. :dayton: