Loser wanna be Peter David can't pay the rent.

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  1. Skrain Dukat

    Skrain Dukat Banned

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  2. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Is that John Castle?
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Title is badly worded.
    Thought you were actually talking about Peter David, and I was like "where the fuck did all his Hulk and Imzadi money go, up his nose? :wtf:".

    Then I realized, you can't grammar.
    :yes:
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  4. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Not a bad response - he got his rent in 1 day.
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  5. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    If I was a wanna-be author, I'd shoot higher than Peter David.
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  6. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    Is this some Star Trek author?
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  7. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    According to his Wiki, he's a rather prolific author and has written numerous Trek books. What says Garamet? Surely she has the scoop on his financial woes.....
  8. TheLonelySquire

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    As much as I'm not for public begging, I feel bad this guy apparently just lost his father and has had a stroke. Sucks.

    ***Apparently, this is not Peter David. This guy should get real job***
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  9. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Also a lot of comic books, I believe. He's popular, but I don't like his writing style.
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    I loved Peter David's TNG novel "Vendetta". It is one of my favorites. Combining The Doomsday Machine with the Borg returning. Arguably better than any story featuring the Borg post The Best of Both Worlds. Several outstanding space battles.

    At any rate Peter David met his first wife at a Star Trek convention. At later conventions he was noted for having his daughter wear a t-shirt that said "I Wouldn't Be Here If It Wasn't for Star Trek". He and his first wife later divorced and he remarried IIRC.

    In regard to Peter David's writing, to me he seems a perfect example of "anyone has one good novel in them". He had more than that but from everything I've seen at least in regards to Star Trek his writing deteriorated badly over the years. The most recent stuff was arguably simply hack work.
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  11. jack243

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    Sell a kidney!
  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    Peter David is diabetic so that is not an option.
  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    garamet says ignorami and jealous little pond scum don’t understand the nature of a freelance income, and it’s pathetic that (A) they spend so much time trawling for nonstories and (B) their own grammar is so incoherent that half the people reading this thread don't even know what the OP is babbling about.

    Oh, and what Demi said. The man's friends stepped up and helped. I wonder how many of the pond scum could say the same?
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  14. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    :lol: "Pond scum." It's always amusing when someone manages to get under granny's skin.

    So Skrain doesn't understand the nature of a freelance income? Here's what I understand - this guy has mismanaged his finances, apparently doesn't have any savings to draw on, and is now to the point where he can't pay the rent and his landlord is threatening to evict him. He blames others for his situation (complaining about "contracts not coming through in a timely manner") and says he won't be making as much teaching karate. :lol: Teaching karate? This guy looks like the stereotypical neck-bearded geek-douche, living off Big Mac's, Cheetos and Mountain Dew. He looks about as athletic as Chris Christie in a baseball uniform.

    If he were a rookie just starting out, I might understand this situation. Starving artist and all that. But DeCandido has been around a while, he's a veteran. So it's obvious that if anyone here doesn't understand the realities of freelance work, it's DeCandido. Perhaps what people should be donating for is to register him for a personal finance management class.

    To make matters worse, rather than privately seek assistance from understanding family & friends, he shamelessly solicits cash from the general public. And THEN, the icing on the cake, he offers a lame-ass consolation prize in the form of a PDF of one of his short stories, but not one you get to pick, only one he pre-approves. Why not offer to autograph something for free? Oh right, because he sells his autograph on his website. I guess not too many folks are paying for those collectors items these days..... :lol:

    So, yeah....Skrain obviously has good reason to be jealous of a loser like this. Where did all this guy's money go? Is he powdering his nose with it? Does he like the casinos a bit too much? Not getting much ghostwriting business? Nobody interested in paying him to edit their work? Here's what he has to say about his services in that regard:

    If you've got a manuscript that needs a professional edit -- either because you're publishing yourself or because you're using a small press that doesn't have an editorial staff or because you want it to be ready to send to a publisher -- then you're in luck, because there's this editor of almost 20 years' standing whose services are available, to wit, me!
    I've worked in book publishing since 1993, and have edited hundreds of books over the years, including such luminaries as Kevin J. Anderson, Mike W. Barr, Christopher L. Bennett, Alfred Bester, John Gregory Betancourt, Kurt Busiek, Richard Lee Byers, Adam-Troy Castro, Nancy Collins, Greg Cox, Peter David, Diane Duane, Harlan Ellison, Michael Jan Friedman, Gregory Frost, Dave Galanter, Craig Shaw Gardner, Christopher Golden, Robert Greenberger, Nancy Holder, Tanith Lee, Jonathan Maberry, David Mack, Una McCormack, Andre Norton, Madeleine E. Robins, Pamela Sargent, Steven Savile, Robert Silverberg, Dean Wesley Smith, S.P. Somtow, James Swallow, Dayton Ward, Lawrence Watt-Evans, Chelsea Quinn Yarbro, J. Steven York, George Zebrowski, Roger Zelazny, and tons more. I've worked for several publishers and packagers over the years, and have also given dozens of writers workshops.

    For reasonable rates, I'll provide a full line-edit of your manuscript (whether it's a short story or a novel or anything in between), an editorial letter, and, if you want, a followup phone call to discuss same.

    If you're interested, please e-mail me and we can discuss rates and deadlines.

    Thanks!


    You really never have any idea what you're talking about before you post something, do you Garamet?
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  15. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yup, Flashy doesn't understand the nature of a freelance income, and his jealousy is palpable. As usual, he walked right into that one...
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  16. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    You're an idiot. :lol:

    But, just to play along....

    Exactly what don't I understand about freelance work? :)
  17. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Anything. Your :drama: over a seasoned editor's posting his résumé (every word of which is accurate, BTW) online by way of advertising his credentials and attracting new business is just one of the finer points.

    That you have since you arrived here failed to understand anything the several writers who've posted here have explained about the nature of publishing contracts, royalty statements, etc. is the backdrop for a monumental :lalala:.

    But please do spend your evening telling us how writers and editors earn their living – something I’ve been doing since before you were born, but obviously you know better.

    I’ve got a dinner date, but I’ll stop by to laugh at you later.
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    The question being posed is, what do I not understand about freelance work that would explain DeCandido's current financial predicament? Assuming you intellectually comprehend the question, can you answer it?

    Because your description of DeCandido as a "seasoned editor" does nothing but bolster my argument that the man has obviously seriously mismanaged his finances. Someone who's been in the business this long, with such an impressive array of published work, should be able to pay his rent. And I certainly wouldn't expect him to have to teach karate as a day job.

    Tell me Garamet, at this point in your career as a published author, are you struggling to pay your rent/mortgage? :)

    I look forward to you stopping by later tonight after your "dinner date" :chris: to D-D-O again.
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    I thought a freelancer was a contract soldier or mercenary. When did they switch to pens?
  20. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yes, that was the question you asked in Post #16.

    To which my response in Post #17 was "Anything."

    Which you confirmed in Post #18.

    You've got one more chance. Tell us about the life of a freelance writer...as you :rofl: understand it :rofl:.
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  21. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I give the rant a B+, it was pretty well crafted and mostly on target. Points deducted for losing focus at the end. And by the way, all the shit about why the loser "writer" is garbage, reminds me so much of a certain someone.
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  22. The Flashlight

    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    Hey hey, I didn't expect you back so quickly, what with your "dinner date" and all....... :chris:

    What, did the Romulan lose his dentures? Plans canceled?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Flashy will now tell the class everything he knows about the writing business...
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    Don't confuse coincidence with causation Garamet.

    I've been listening to your writing advice for years and I've never sold anything.
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    Maybe you suck at taking direction.
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    The Flashlight Contributes nothing worthwhile Cunt Git

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    :lol:

    Neither is Garamet, apparently. She's offering Ain't Exactly Clear as a free download from her website. No wonder, given this bizarre description:

    Something of a departure for me. Not Star Trek, not science fiction, but a thriller. The year is 2016. The place is an America that, like the one portrayed in The West Wing, may or may not exist....

    AIN'T EXACTLY CLEAR

    Morgan Judd is doomed to the life of a debutante, at least if her mother Melissa, wife of Senator Bill Judd, has her way. But Morgan’s never followed the rules, and she flouts parental expectations by enlisting in the Marine Corps as soon as she turns 18. However, her father uses his influence to have her assigned to Project Occult, an experimental program designed to test recruits’ psychic abilities in an effort to create Super Soldiers and, not incidentally, keep his daughter out of harm’s way.

    Trying to be just another grunt, Morgan earns her squad’s respect and the nickname “Starbuck” during an escapade involving a miniature drone and a great deal of alcohol. But then a half-dozen terrorists infiltrate the supposedly secure base and kidnap Morgan and three other Marines.

    The four become the subject of global speculation, with one persistent rumor dominating, particularly in cyberspace…that Morgan’s father, with his ties to the intelligence agencies, has had his own daughter kidnapped in order to play on public sympathy (Morgan is the perfect mashup of MIA and Pretty Blonde Girl Abducted) and bolster his bid for the White House.

    Enter another Gang of Four – an unlikely group of cyber-friends who track the rumor to its source, though not without consequences for themselves, the missing Marines, and Politics as Usual.


    Seriously, Margaret.....WTF? G.I. Jane meets Starship Troopers meets season 9 X-Files meets Scooby Doo for the Facebook generation? And "Morgan Judd" makes me think of "Morgan's Juggs." :lol:
    What a fucking mess. :rofl:
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    Whereas you suck dick.
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    For someone who's made a living off Trek, it's interesting how quickly Garamet uses Trekkie stereotypes as an ultimate insult. Who knew she had such contempt for her audience?
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