So Drudge put this up: Let me see your helpless submission to Islam face! Yeah, that's like "rape me porn" for jihadists. To put it in Conan terms, they're hearing the lamentations of our women. They live for this.
The kind of apocalyptic attack you suggested has very different consequences from the surgical operation required. Those consequences matter.
Unfortunately "surgical operations" tend to put our personal at greater risk. I value our soldiers lives more. Sorry.
More than what? The success of the mission and the safety of your own civilian population? Since those are the things you are putting at unnecessary risk.
^They say she is one of the lousiest lays in the enterta You don't do surgery with bombs Rick. This would be more akin to how firefighters put out a large structure fire. They call it "surround and drown".
A couple of points for the less xenophobic to consider: Whether or not ISIS members are Moslem, all Moslems are not ISIS ISIS definitely does not practice Islam in a form recognizable to the vast majority of 21st century Moslems. That said, the Atlantic article is still very informative. Here's another good article worth reading for people whose minds are not already made-up: http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/09/11/3566181/why-isis-is-in-fact-not-islamic/
This is very easy to believe. When I studied Russian business methods during grad school, we toured various factories, banks, etc. They had virtually no meaningful accounting procedures, since everything during the Soviet era had been geared toward counting production units but nothing else. There was no awareness of cost aside from formulaic rules that related cost to production. If they approach military logistics in the same fashion, then we can assume that 100 soldiers have 200 boots, 100 rifles, etc., whether or not any boots and rifles were ever ordered.
The problem is, for Europe at least, is that 1) still provides a reservoir for ISIS. The West, in general, needs to stop being so respectful towards religions. Education should involve challenging various faiths and their tenets, providing kids with the mental toolkit to pass on what's being shovelled in their direction. In the UK we have faith schools with state funding. That needs to stop. We need to ensure our nations are very stony ground when religions try to plant their ideals. There's no point in tackling ISIS in the ME if we leave our own nations open to our citizens converting to their cause.
Oh, it's also been fun watching both sides of the political spectrum co-opt a tragedy thus bolstering my view they're both a set of cunts. The right: Something, something, Islam. Something, something refugees. The left: Something, something, Gaza. Something, something invading Iraq. Fucks sake.
That's the point numbnuts. ISIS is not trying to be 21st century. ISIS is trying to run things based off Quran 1.0 and they actually believe they are trying to bring about the end times.
Yes, and that means all the people who forget or ignore the qualification aren't helping matters. Also, that post makes me the honored recipient of the first ever neg rep by gturner!
That wasn't a neg-rep, that was me disagreeing with the article, written of course by a pair of non-Muslims who are non-Muslim-splainin' to Muslims what Islam means. Many Muslims, including Muslim scholars, flock to ISIS because they look at the atrocities and realize "It's TRUE Islam!!! It's the stuff Muhammed and the early caliphs did!"
And this is why we haven't wiped these types out so far. We're so squeamish about losing troops (I'm not a fan of it, but bear with me) we leap for airstrikes and other forms of warfare which are indiscriminate and create resentment among those in the area who are likely not fans of ISIS either. More regular troops, undertaking area clearance, or special forces assassinating enemy leaders, WILL be needed if we want to minimise collateral damage and keep the locals onside. Which we need to do, as much as some here like to pretend otherwise.
Interesting take: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/isil-whos-calling-the-shots-213360 Basically the ISIS statement taking credit for this contains no information not already publically known. No photos of the 'martyrs' no names, no inside knowledge whatsoever. Also there are signs that it was rushed, in that there were grammatical and syntax errors their propaganda pieces usually don't have.
Actually, I remember reading a year or two ago that the kind of attacks that stoke resentment MOST are.........drone attacks. Some people in Afghanistan were standing around a crashed U.S. drone and saying that it wasn't like they had won anything Even if you shoot a drone down all you've done is destroy a simple machine.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34825505 More information on the Arab with French citizenship who was involved in the attack. He was born in Paris to Algerian immigrant parents, in 2010 he is identified by the police as having radical views and moves to the suburbs, he then goes to Algeria for a year, and after that he joins ISIS and goes to Syria to fight. In late 2015 the French let him back in despite his record of being an ISIS member who fought in Syria and just weeks later he takes part in the terrorist attack on the concert.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...s-live-updates#block-56485e30e4b06fb53392c7db A little old but not yet reported here. The get away car was found abandoned with three AK-47s in it. Also six people have no been arrested in connection to the attacks so that means eight gunmen and six accomplices so far.
Beirut Wonders If Some Terror Attacks Mean More Than Others http://time.com/4113615/paris-beirut-terror-attacks/ Yay, more idiotic "us-versus-them" inflammatory rhetoric. That'll help.
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/...juring-four-police-in-southern-turkey-reports A new suicide bombing by ISIS this time in Turkey. Five reported dead. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0T314120151114 Meanwhile six have been arrested for last week's ISIS bombing in Beruit. Not surprisingly all six were in the country as "refugees". Fix were Syrians and one a Palestinian. Do the dumb shits still want to bring in these fake "refugees"?
Well yeah some do matter more. Fact is that Beirut and that part of the world get hit on a regular basis. Paris? Yeah this is a big thing.
Yeah, it's kind of a head scratcher. Yes, people should have noticed Beirut, but Paris is just going to mean more to the average Westerner. Regardless, whether Beirut or Paris, whatever causes people to focus their attention on the problem, it's ISIS that is the issue, not why we noticed ISIS.
Been loads of similar stuff over the internet. People who play Top Trumps with things like this need to spend more quality time dying in fires.
I work at Leerdammer Cheese, they are part of the French Bel Group, famous for their BabyBel and Smiling Cow products. About 50 percent of my colleagues are Muslim. They've denounced the perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo attacks for their attack and they will do the same for this attack. In the eyes of my colleagues and other Muslims in Europe these members of ISIS are following a twisted version of Islam, going against Muhammed's message.
I am not hearing anything about the French calling for an article four meeting. I wonder if they will not invoke NATO.
As long as there are muslims in Europe there will be Islamic Terror and the more muslims you have the more terrorism you will get. It is like Winston Churchill said, individual muslims can have many admirable traits but collectively they are backwards savages and the rules and beliefs of their religion makes this so.
