The fourth statement is a truism. If people work at your McDonald's, they are being paid enough to live in your town. The question becomes: under which conditions should McDonald's workers be able to live in your town? My answer: in those conditions which fit their salary. If they want better conditions then that...well... ...they need to find a better job.
No, the question is: WHO is paying them enough to live in your town? And the answer is the public at large. Because it is not McDonalds, the ones profiting off their labor. Walmart, McDonalds among Washington state employers with the most workers using food stamps
If the state wishes to supplement the income of low wage earners, that's a better solution. The burden for subsidizing those who provide low value labor should fall on all taxpayers, not on McDonald's or their customers.
Okay, so just so I understand, you’ve shifted from ‘McDonald’s pays its workers a living wage’ to ‘it isn’t McDonald’s job to pay its workers a living wage, that is the state’s job’?
Or they can always walk 14-20 miles to work.https://www.google.com/search?q=mcd...AhUZV80KHUHYB2EQBSgAegQIDBAn&biw=1280&bih=543 Murica, Fuck yeah!
They deserve to receive compensation in accord with the market value of their labor. I've already said that if the state wishes to subsidize them, I'd prefer that to state intervention in the economy. I still think that would ultimately be bad for the workers themselves, but at least McDonald's and their custoners wouldn't have to carry the whole burden.
If you, taxpayer, want low wage workers' lot improved, then you help carry the burden. If it's the workers' lot you care about, why not?
Yes Garamet you broke the case wide open! Some people in America have a tougher time than others economically. No other civilized nation has this problem! Dammit why the fuck isn't everybody 100 percent equal here?
Could you be any more transparent about wanting the government's role in society to be facilitating the transfer of money from everyday working Americans to the rich and powerful few?
Nice try Charles Dickens, but this character is just too cliched, try and add some subtlety in your next post as him hey?
No shift. I said if workers at McDonald's are, in fact, alive, they are already receiving a "living" wage. And, if we must mandate that workers receive some arbitrary sum to bring them up to some supposed standard of living, I'd prefer the cost be paid by the taxpayers, not just McDonald's and their customers.
That explains so much about your child labor bullshit, OMG Just curious, why do you support welfare for the rich?
If McDonald's can't survive while paying a wage that doesn't require a government subsidy with my tax dollars maybe their business model is wrong. That sounds a lot like socialism and picking winners.
Could you imagine living under that shit? 9 year olds working full time jobs at $1 an hour because "kids don't have rent to pay." Old people dying because their frail bodies can't keep up with the demands of work so they can cover their medications and health costs. What a fucking nightmare.
Smart parents will one day raise their kids to be lawn cutters so the kids (brainwashed by leftist mindless dogma propagated by the string pullers and their unwitting (apparently) Democrat voter tools) can demand a rate of pay sufficient to raise a family, buy a house, and ultimately obtain a free landscaping studies degree from a top college. *You* didn't build that lawn. TLDR: Cashier at McD's is not and has not ever been a career. Though Manager of a McDs is a legit career goal, the rest of the jobs are for teens. [Bitch instead about creating better jobs, please don't try to stuff the round peg into the square hole, that's insane.]
How is subsidizing those workers with tax dollars so that the corporation can get rich not insane? Only brainwashed rightwingers think that's okay.
We do this, it's called tax credits but it isn't about raising the wage to the minimum, the employer still has to pay that. Why do you not think an employer should be expected to be able to afford to pay their staff properly?
Certainly, I would prefer to not subsidize, but I prefer it to commanding the price if labor. Commanding prices is a hallmark of socialism.
Then why do you advocate skewing the market? Whereas subsidizing inefficient business models with taxpayer money is one of the actual hallmarks of capitalism.
As I've said before and will say again, McDonalds and other corporations are not people. They are entities created by the state, and ought to have imposed on them whatever conditions the state sees fit to in return for their right to exist. The "free market" is a nonsense applied to such entities, merely a propaganda tool for the credulous.
