MCU phase 4.

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  1. Diacanu

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    My theory is they'll have to split into teams to prevent key events that lead to the snap-ocalypse.
    1. Crossbones surviving Winter Soldier.
    2. The rise of Ultron.
    3. Thanos's assault on Nidavellir
    4. Hela arriving at Asgard.

    1 & 2 would keep our heroes from being sidelined by stupid government bullshit and being split up by preventing Sokovia and the Wakandan embassy blast.
    3 nips the gauntlet in the bud.
    4 prevents Ragnarok, and keeps the space stone in Asgard's vaults.

    I also predict Infinity War Tony dies, but they grab Avengers 1 Tony as a replacement copy.
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    Rocket knows where the Guardians were going (Titan): he's probably the key to finding Tony. He may go searching for the other Guardians (he doesn't know they're dead, after all) and happens on Tony. I wouldn't be surprised if Pepper goes along for that ride. As Thor can now summon the bifrost, they might travel that way.

    I'm pretty sure the time travel shenanigans WON'T undo the pre-snap timeline. I'm imagining a Back to the Future 2 scenario, where our heroes have to alter the past WITHOUT changing established continuity. Things will go wrong, of course, and the Avengers will have to improvise to preserve the timeline while still accomplishing the mission.

    Time travel will be provided by Scott Lang via the Quantum Realm. Once Stark's back, he'll get that tech working.

    I'm also guessing that the time travel centers on getting access to one or more of the infinity stones at a time/place that they know it/they will be. Perhaps a hack that enables Vision to survive within the mind stone?

    The timeline will ultimately be rewound to right before the snap. Thanos's head will be split by Stormbreaker this time.

    Original timeline Hawkeye will be too damaged to make it to the end. He'll die, but will be restored to happy retirement at film's end, never having experienced the deaths of his family.

    At least some of the Avengers will remember the alternate (post-snap) timeline at the end (some will be from the original timeline, some from the new). I expect one of the Avengers to make the ultimate sacrifice in the climax. My money's on Steve Rogers. Tony goes home to Pepper (yes, I know the spoiler about her).

    Everyone killed by the snap is restored by the timeline switch. A hack or somesuch to the infinity stones or time travel trickery will preserve and restore Gamora. Loki may be well and truly dead, but I doubt it. Ragnarok still happens (no film is erased from the final continuity) but the half-Asgaardians :diacanu: who survived Thanos's assault in IW will resettle.
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    Oh, and Amy Pascal said the female spinoff is going to have Spider-Gwen, Silk, and Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew incarnation).
    YES!!!
    Jessica Drew!!
    My childhood Spider-Woman!!
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    Assuming Wakanda is approximately where Zambia is (central Africa, not on a coast), it would be about 7 hours ahead of Eastern time in the U.S. So, it would easily be possible for a battle to be going on in Wakanda in the late afternoon (say, 4pm), while it was morning time (9am) in NYC. :async:

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    Yes. And given the epic battle in Wakanda must have gone on for hours, without a sunset, it should be late in the day when it ended. It works out well.
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    Don't forget how time works in the MCU: In X-Men 3 it goes from day to night in the short period of time it takes Magneto to move the bridge. :D
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  10. Diacanu

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    Captain Marvel 3rd trailer.

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    That looks really good
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    Spider-Man: Far From Home trailer!

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    It's interesting that they didn't acknowledge Infinity Wars/Endgame at all. Are the characters even aware of it? Could indicate some sort of hard reset.
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    It might go in between Homecoming and Infinity War.

    If so, Endgame isn't spoiled after all.
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    ...Although isn't he wearing the suit he first obtained in Infinity War?
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    Hmmm...
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    I believe Far From Home is post-Endgame.

    Everyone who got dusted in Infinity War will be alive again, so Endgame is going to be a pretty hard reset.
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    You mean Far From Home ist post-Endgame, right? Infinity War acknowledged Homecoming.
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    I'm having a senile moment here. Who is the guy with the kinda-Roman dress and the colourful lightning shooting from his hands?
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    It's meant to be Mysterio.
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    Oooooh.
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    You're right, I got my Spider-Man films crossed.
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    Black Panther and Into The Spider-Verse just got Oscar noms.

    The "superhero fatigue", people need to quietly slink away, and go into a Hobbit hole somewhere in New Zealand, and never be heard from again.
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    Black Panther was good, but if we're nominating superhero films now Avengers Infinity War was a superior film in every single sense
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    Black Panther was middle of the pack Marvel. A more compelling villain, some great world-building, and a few vivid characters, yes. But Best Picture? No.

    It wasn't even the best Marvel movie of 2018.
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    Black Panther was leaps and bounds ahead of Infinity War.

    But if animation wasn't shoved into its own little box, Spider-Verse might give it a run for its money.
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    :rotfl:
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    Black Panther is the better standalone movie.
    Infinity War needs the other 20 movies to work.
    I mean, you theoretically could jump into Infinity War, and get some enjoyment out of it, but it would be like eating a peanut butter sandwich with your salty taste-buds fucked up.