MLB 2009

Discussion in 'The Green Room' started by Nova, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Under 48 hours and counting.

    Some random thoughts....

    *Look for the Rays to Regress, somewhere from 7-10 games. They are a good team but played well over their head last year in terms of wins.

    *Yankees should be better but they strike me as fragile

    *The AL West looks strange; The Angels have 3 starters on the DL, the A's are pitching Dallas-fuggin-BRADEN on opening day fercryinoutloud, and the Rangers never have any pitching.

    *My Jays are long shots but they are NOT the sad-sack no-hope team many suggest. Travis Snider has a good shot at ROY.

    *I like what the Braves did with their SP but the rest of their team doesn't impress me as much

    *I suppose you have to like the Cubs in that division, but for some reason I can't put my finger on they seem vulnerable to me

    *Arizona and LA should be one of the better races this year, and the Giants might have a puncher's chance with that starting staff.

    what talking points have ye to offer?
  2. NAHTMMM

    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    Yeah, different mindsets for everyone this year. It's gonna be rough for them, I expect. Hopefully they won't go too sour.

    Could it be because they're the CUBS? :D :ramen:
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  3. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    If the Mariners play half decent baseball out of the gate, they could jump ahead for first place and chug along all year long in the same spot.

    I hope.
  4. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I'm skeptical about the M's BUT I think they got a relative steal in Branyan. If they hand him first base and don't screw with him all year I'm interested to see if he can still come up with a career year.
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  5. Chuck

    Chuck Go Giants!

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    NL West will be interesting with the Diamondbacks and Dodgers fighting for 1st place. The D-Backs have been playing terrible baseball all spring though :(. Hopefully they'll snap out of it when the games count. The Giants could be interesting with that starting rotation. They'll be in a lot of 2-1 type games.
  6. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    The Jays are a good team. Their problem is that they play in the AL East with three teams that are better than they are. The Jays would be likely to contend in every other division except the NL Central, and they'd be in contention for the NL wildcard as well. Sitting in the AL East the Jays have to hope that Tampa seriously regresses and that the Sox or Yankees suffer with multiple serious injuries.
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    NAHTMMM Perpetually sondering

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    Also, I hope someone takes the opportunity of the All-Star Game to shame the Cardinals a little over Ballpark Village.
  8. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Half decent is right--81 wins could easily take the AL West. Not that the Mariners are likely to win that many. The Mariners got really lucky season before last and put together a good won/loss record with a crappy team, paid for it last year when they didn't bother trying to improve their crappy team, and are going to continue paying for it this year. This is going to be a season of Griffey sentimentality and lots of losses for the Mariners.
  9. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    All the more reason to fix the stupid division crap.

    Top team from each division has the first 3 spots, and the top 3 teams from all the other the divisions make the playoffs.

    3 series instead of 2.

    Would even make the MLB more money.
  10. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    All true except I disagree that the Rays are better than we are, they were virtually the same team last year except that the Rays preformed abnormally well in close and late situations and one-run games while the Jays performed freakishly poorly for half the season w/RISP

    those things tend to be one year aberrations.

    I could see the argument we are worse than them THIS year because of the absence of McGowan and Marcum...but that's a temporary thing.

    Still, I think we have a dark horse chance, but as you say we need two of the three in front of us to disappoint so that alone makes the odds long against us.

    Still, one only needs to look over a few years of MLB history to find stranger things.
  11. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Here's an interesting reflection on last year's Blue Jay offense.

    They scored 714 runs, better than only three AL team. The average AL team scored 775 runs.

    And we added no free agent hitter (save the lowly Kevin Millar) bad news, right?

    Not so fast.

    In the 74 games John Gibbons managed, the Jays scored 297 runs, which rojects to 650 over a full season. Almost as bad as the astonishingly bad A's offense.

    BUT

    In the 88 games managed by Cito Gaston, the Jays scored 417 runs - which projects to 867 runs over a full season...enough to have ranked second in the AL to the Rangers, and over 20 runs better than the Red Sox.

    And that's without Vernon Wells for 27 games, and with Rolen spending 3 weeks on the DL (and the month previous to that hitting .150 or so), and without Aaron Hill for even ONE of those games and the astoundingly bad bat of Brad Wilkerson in Vernon's place.

    This year besides presumed health from Hill Wells and (hopefully) Rolen, we have replaced Wilkerson's ineptitude with Travis Snider. As strange as it may sound, the jays could have one of the most productive offenses in the league...but who knows what will happen with the young pitching.
  12. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    That's a fair assessment. If the Cardinals were able to win that world series . . . . I wouldn't be shocked to see the Jays in the playoffs, but they need to play near their best and get some help too. They could also end up winning 90-92 games, having the fifth best record in baseball, and still come in fourth in their division.
  13. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

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    Tigers - World Series

    Calling it now.
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  14. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Hey, it could happen. They were only there a couple years ago. I doubt it, but it could happen.
  15. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    As long as the Yankees and Dodgers don't win I'm happy.
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  16. The Commadaunt

    The Commadaunt Tomahawk Choppin

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    1st game of the season going nicely, my Braves are silencing the Phills 4-0, (the Phils only hvae 2 hits!!) headed to the middle of the 7th in Philly!!

    If this game (and hopefully it is!) all these jokers saying the Braves not having the Homerun power it has had in the past can shutup. Francouer, McCain and Schafer have all homered! Chipper Jones and Escobar both have groundrule doubles (whens the last time you heard a game with 2 GR-Doubles!?!???)

    On the HR Note, Congrats Jordan Schafer, the homerun was his first major league at bat! So far this game, the rookie is 2-2, a homerun, a single and an intential walk!!

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    wahoo! Braves hold on to win 4-1

    Derek Lowe pitched a masterpiece, 8 inninnigs, 2 hits, 0 walks and 4 Ks
    Mike Gonzalez gave us a 9th innining scare, his totals 2 hits, 1 run, 1 walk and 2 strikeouts. He had runners 1st and 2nd 2 outs and a 3-2 count before striking out Ibanez to finish the game.

    Go Braves!
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  17. Nautica

    Nautica Probably a Dual

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    Cubs - choke again. No WS appearance for them. I'm calling it now.
  18. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    I'm surprised San Diego is off to a bad start. :bergman:
  19. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    M'Boys off to a nice start....clutch hitting, power from the younger guys, executing the fundamentals, three good pitching starts in 4 games (including Ricky Ro looking very good today)

    - and we start three with the winless Indians tomorrow.With any luck they'll still be winless on Monday.
  20. Chuck

    Chuck Go Giants!

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    Apparently the 2011 All Star Game will be played at Chase Field in Phoenix.

    :bananana:
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    Bases loaded and Pujols pounds the first pitch into the upper deck. That was pretty sweet. :yes2:
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  22. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

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    Seattle with a decent start.

    Better than 3-7.
  23. Chuck

    Chuck Go Giants!

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    Aargh. Dan Haren is 0-3 with an ERA of about 2. He's getting no support whatsoever. He pitched 7 innings and gave up 1 run yesterday but took the loss. :mad:
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  24. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    So far the best team in the American League is still cooking along. 9-4 after today's win and a chance to gain a fourth consecutive series win tomorrow.

    but more importantly, the Yankees got the shit beat out of them buy thr last place Indians today - 22-4!!

    Chin Ming Wang now has an ERA over 34

    This was just about as good as a day of baseball can get for a Jays fan.
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  25. Chuck

    Chuck Go Giants!

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    My wife and I were having lunch in a pizza place yesterday and I kept glancing at the ticker at the bottom of the TV screen. ESPN was showing some crappy spring college football game. It was nice to see that run number keep going up for Cleveland in the 2nd inning! :banana:
  26. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

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    So I'm playing in a fantasy baseball league on Facebook (no draft, shared players, 250m cap). My knowledge beyond teams doesn't really extend all that well past the AL Central and is virtually nothing in the NL (it's a shame but we only get Tigers games).

    SP Armando Galarraga
    SP Adam Wainright
    SP Francisco Liriano
    SP Justin Verlander
    RP Mariano Rivera

    C Victor Martinez
    1B Joey Votto
    2B Placidio Polanco
    3B Chipper Jones
    SS Jhonny Peralta
    OF Jermaine Dye
    OF Bobby Abreu
    OF Magglio Ordonez
    DH Miguel Cabrera

    The pitching is where I'm most concerned; Verlander's having a tough season but I think he'll have himself sorted out shortly. Thoughts?
  27. Asyncritus

    Asyncritus Expert on everything

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    A major consolation for all Detroit fans:

    No matter what happens, the Tigers will do better than the Lions! :soma:


  28. Chris

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    They're playing small ball, which is exactly how Leyland likes to play it. They've got a first-rate defense, a multi-faceted offense, well-stocked bullpen, and a decent farm system to help the starters along.

    I'm stoked. I don't think there's a team that can consistently beat them (The Jays were early and not every piece was in place). Yankee Stadium is a home-run factory without the abysmal Yankees pitchers helping, the AL Central is anemic this year, and Comerica, as always, is forgiving for a defensive ball-club.
  29. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    You better figure out what the heck is wrong with Verlander if you are going to make good use of the rest of that.

    Meanwhile, the best team in the AL continues to be just a bit to your Northeast....
    :finger:
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    Angel Stadium has a freakishly good groundskeeping staff, and the Blue Jays are on a hot streak by fueled by an easy schedule. Watch and see them erode by the end of May.