More evidence of FOX collusion with the GOP

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  1. matthunter

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    The Dominion lawsuit case has already revealed that FOX people knew Trump's claims of election fraud were bullshit, but carried on lying anyway.

    Now it seems FOX (or its owner, anyhoo) might just have been pissed that Trump couldn't get it up despite them slipping some Viagra via to his son-in-law to pass on:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...hner-biden-ads-fox_n_63fdaa49e4b0ecabbaa10e60

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  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    FOX is GOP-TV?

    Who would have guessed?
    Except Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, every Democrat on Earth, every European, every hippie, every black, brown, red, and yellow person, and every FOX viewer who's been lying to our fucking face for 23 years?
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  3. 14thDoctor

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    I was reading about this earlier. One thing I find utterly fascinating is Fox sticking with a story it absolutely knew to be false out of fear that if they told the truth their viewers would simply change the channel to another conservative network that would happily tell them the lies they wanted to hear. They're admitting they've lost control of the brainwashed mob they created. :marathon:
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  4. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I remember back in the day verbally jousting with the conservatives who I considered good if mistaken people about media bias.

    There has never to the best of my knowledge been a case where supposedly liberal media types knew that a story attacking conservatives were a flat out lie like the alleged election fraud and yet hyped that lie up and failed to at least do the "some people say it's a lie, while others say it's true" thing.

    If something as blatant as what FOX has done with the election denialism ever happened by CNN, the NYT, or any conventional media, we would never hear the end of it.

    Anybody complaining about the supposed suppression of Hunter Biden's laptop news but not being aghast about FOX knowingly amplifying lies should hang their heads in shame.
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  5. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I mean, you are not wrong, but you are pretty strongly missing the point if you think there is anyone left in the GOP or Fox that has shame at this point.
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    I’m shocked that Fox passing on Biden Campaign ad buys and strategy to the Trump Campaign is somehow legal.
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  9. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I'm not thinking of what actual law it would be breaking. I mean, it is skeezy and breaks journalistic ethics left and right, but the First Amendment doesn't only protect the virtuous journalists.

    I doubt that there would be anything in the contract for the ad buys that would require them to not be disclosed, mainly because I find it doubtful that the lawyers involved would have contemplated the need to put a "and don't go giving our political opponents a heads' up as to what is in our ads and don't go strategizing with them about how to beat us" clause into the contract. Although maybe they should have.
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  10. MikeH92467

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    I suspect they will from now on... :spock:
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    Wouldn’t it run afoul of FEC regs as an unreported in-kind contribution?
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  12. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I am not pretending to be particularly savvy about election law, but I tend to think not. It seems from taking a quick look at the FEC website that an in-kind contribution is meant to cover goods and services. If we say the service is providing information, I just don't think that is what the reporting requirement is for. I think it's safe to say that there is some source-reporter flow of information that goes both ways in many cases, although it usually is not (I hope) oriented to making a politician win. There can't be an obligation to report the receipt of information from a reporter or news organization on an ongoing basis. Also, assuming there was an obligation to report, for discussion's sake, that would mean that if the Trump campaign had vaguely alluded to receiving the in-kind contribution, it would have been legal and that there was no legal problem with the act itself.
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    Oh, there's always reporter-to-source information flow ... it's inherent in the nature of interviewing, because the questions you ask reveal how much you know and what you're working on. The next time some Republican claims to have gotten their hands on a picture of Hunter Biden's dingdong, if they approach a news outlet with it, the Biden administration will know about it before the public does, because seeking comment will be part of the process of publishing.

    It's more a violation of business ethics. Imagine you own a car dealership, but the local newspaper is owned by the rival car dealer's brother, so all of your sales and specials get leaked to the competition as soon as your ad copy lands in the prepress department five days before publication. Or your accountant slips information about your cashflow to your competitor so they can integrate it into their strategy and have an easier time putting you out of business.

    Mostly it's just confirmation that the entire Fox News enterprise is nothing more than a PR firm with the purpose of electing Republicans ... which we already knew, but this may be a new level of blatant.

    (Cue FF to rush into the thread yelling "bothsides bothsides bothsides!" with "examples" that aren't remotely equivalent.)
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    Yeah, the FEC is largely toothless. It needs to be a totally nonpartisan body, but that's not how it's comprised. The GOP literally wouldn't ratify anyone in the Trump years because they wanted it to not have a quorum. The head of the FEC screamed bloody murder about it, it should have been obvious they were corruptly gaming the system yet again, but of course nothing could be done with the neo-Nazis in power.
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    The Twitter files tell a different story. Especially when it comes to Russian collusion and Hunter Biden’s laptop. But hey, keep telling yourself that.
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  17. Diacanu

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    And "the Hilary files" had a guy whipping a gun out at a pizza place with no basement.
    How about you guys stop LARPing bad spy thrillers?
    Come to think of it, stop LARPing period.
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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Just because you choose not to believe it doesn’t mean it isn’t true. The fact is that you live in a left wing bubble where you get to choose what facts you like or not.
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    You realize that's what every kook up to and including the homeless guy with aliens in his filling says, right?
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    You say, from inside the information silo.
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