More trouble for Obamacare.

This house of cards will crumble under its own weight.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/official-8-of-11-remaining-obamacare-co-ops-on-the-brink/

Fortunately, there is also the federal operated marketplace, so whether or not a state has the competence to run its own coop, the ACA will continue.

Yeah fuck Obama! Fuck health insurance!

Thanks to a Supreme Court that can't read basic English.

Nobody's arguing against having health insurance or health care. Nice straw man though.

What are Obamacare co-ops?

I'm thinking exchanges.

It can't be. Several of the states in the article listed didn't set up exchanges.

What are you arguing?

Yeah, I thought they were the exchanges, so thanks for noticing that Shoes. Google turns up the term Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan. Basically the ACA includes incentives for establishing non-profit health plans. It doesn't seem to be a huge aspect of the overall ACA, but apparently some of them aren't run well, thus they have been shut down. That seems like exactly what should happen. I guess it would have been cool if the guy writing the OP actually understood what the issue was.

I personally am arguing that it's unconstitutional and you don't have a right to health insurance and it's not the governments role to provide healthcare.

Obamacare isn't about everyone having the right to health insurance. The government isn't providing the healthcare.

Yes, but it forces people to purchase a product or face a fine. Can the government force you to eat broccoli? Where's that in the constitution.

Then why did you say it?

Because he's against health care.

The government forces you to buy car insurance. That's not in the Constitution either.

If you don't buy it and you get caught, you face a fine. Same thing.

And conservatives didn't have a problem with the ACA when it was called RomneyCare.

Because the people who support it think that.

I wasn't involved in either one of those. I can't speak for those who were.

Not taking sides one way or the other, but you only have to buy car insurance if you actually own a car and plan on driving it on a public road.

Not to mention those are state and not federal mandates.

Huh. That's weird. I figured you thought that.

In my experience, it's the people against it who think that.

People against it think health care is a right? Never heard anyone against it say that.

No, they think that's what people think. But actually, I was focusing on Shoes' second sentence, the idea that ACA is government provided or controlled healthcare.

Well, the government has a lot of control over it.

OK.

True. But you don't have to buy insurance in all circumstances either, and the ones in which you do are no more commonplace than owning and usimg a car.

This thread sucks.

It's been a while since I've seen so much backpedaling in so few posts.

It's entirely consistent. He's got nothing against health care. He's just against people having health care.