Mueller Investigation

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  1. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    For the most part I've only ever insulted those that flame me first, those such as yourself, and by and large even then I include content or substance. In contrast, any person that's treated me with respect or absence of hostility has only ever seen respect and the absence of hostility in return.

    E.g. ask the vast majority of members.
    Or see if I've called anyone else shitstain repeatedly as I addressed one particular fecal member for months (hint if too subtle: you).

    I was late to realize it, but in recent months there are actually a few members left of center that have the willingness and capacity for actual discussion, so I've dabbled in participating with those members (or some like Shoes or Nova that with whom I've always had respectful exchanges).
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  2. Dinner

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    You do have a very active imagination.
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    And Papa Smurf, here, is suspected of having worn a wire for months.

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  7. Nova

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    slightly more complex. The Byrd Rule specifies that adding more than $1.5 trillion to the deficit over 10 years requires 60 votes, which they would never get. Therefore they had to do some voodoo economics in order to be able to (almost certainly falsely) pretend they got under that threshold.

    part of accomplishing that was letting some of their bait & switch "cuts" expire. Now, they COULD have accomplished the same thing by, for example, letting that corporate rate slide back to 23 or 24% in 2025 but...ya know.... priorities!
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  8. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    THIS is, to me, the trail of bread crumbs that is going to end up constituting "The Tapes" in this particular debacle. Thee's an open question on whether or not Trump can skate on "I didn't know anything about this and you have no conclusive evidence I did" and let a dozen underlings, up to potentially Kushner who's looking more and more exposed, take the fall or whether something will turn up that proves Trump knew (it's not a question of IF he knew - of course he did - only whether they'll be able to PROVE he did in a way he can't skate out of) but I'm convinced Mueller will take a significant number of scalps, and many of them important ones.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

    Steve Bannon has called the Trump Tower meeting with Russian intelligence agents as "treasonous". Now, I know Steve just loves twisting the knife into Jerad Kushner but I now have to wonder how Bannon can repeatedly speak out against the Trump campaign's collision with Russia yet not get called as a witness. Could it be that Mueller has already got him on the official record?
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    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...hner-manaforts-greasy-money-laundering-deals/

    Bannon's puppet wingnut website is even throwing folks like Don Jr, Jared and Ivanka, as well as Manafort under the bus saying Mueller will find a great deal of money laundering. Mysterously, Bannon leaves Trump Sr off his list but Trump has made it clear he is afraid his history of money laundering will get uncovered. That was what kept him in business when there wasn't a bank in the western world which would touch him.
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  12. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Bannon release the piss tape you fat alcoholic asshole
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  13. Anduril

    Anduril So tired Git

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    Haha. You still believe that?
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Of course I do. Bannon is a notorious alcoholic.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It doesn't matter whether the piss tape is real or not, what matters is the hope and joy the thought of it brings to our hearts.

    All hail the piss tape!
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  16. Quincunx

    Quincunx anti-anti Staff Member Administrator

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    https://pagesix.com/2018/01/02/russ...like-a-black-lives-matter-rally-says-witness/

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    D.C. is a majority black city and much of it on welfare. I suspect everyone else had jobs and just ignored the jury duty summons. Sometimes the truth hurts. :shrug:
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    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    In any event. A majority black city having a majority black pool is nothing out of the ordinary. Though I know the wingbuts will try to pretend it is.
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    Man that would really suck if you were linked to people that had every chance to marginalize and distance themselves from white supremacists but didn’t.
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  21. tafkats

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    The unintended irony dripping off of that article is really something.

    White male fragility on parade ...
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  22. 14thDoctor

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    Rumour is the information was leaked by Trump himself, "central casting" being one of his favorite expressions. :chris:
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    DC hasn't been majority black for almost a decade you dumb racist fuck. Your welfare comment is similarly outdated and bigoted you dumb racist fuck.

    I know it hurts your feelings to hear that. Sometimes the truth hurts.
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  24. tafkats

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    However, the percentage of the grand jury that's black is pretty close to the percentage of D.C.'s population that's black, which makes the article's whining pretty amusing.
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  25. Nova

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    Hmmmm......

    There's someone out there who constantly uses the term "central casting" - can anyone recall his name?
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    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    this is all completely to be expected but still incredibly deliscious.

    I mean this may have been Bannon's play all along - i sure don't think it's some emotional "fuck with me will you?!" moment but...Trump?

    Totally getting played because Bannon knows how to push his buttons.
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    I know you want to feel righteously indignant at the truth, weak minded people often do avoid uncomfortable truthes, that is why they love dogmas and ideologies. That said you are technically partially correct. In 2011 to 2012 it went from black majority to black plurality and now is only 47.7% black and 43% white. The welfare rate is 53% and that IS majority black.

    Stating the truth simply is not racist; that you want to pretend it is tells us more about your fears of the truth than anything else. The first step towards solving a problem is admitting there is a problem and you haven't reached step #1 yet. :shrug:
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    On topic:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...e-desist-letter-disparaging/story?id=52128555

    Trump and his lawyers are in a tizzy over Bannon telling the public the truth and are now sending nasty letters threatening to sue him unless he stops telling the truth. The claims seem legally questionable though a nondisclosure agreement had been previously signed.

    Given that Bannon probably already testified on the matter, which will be public record eventually, I wonder if that angle is legally viable. I can certainly understand why Trump is frightened of people on the right undermining his claim that there is nothing to his collusion with Russia though. Yeah, that would be deadly serious as it might erode the 30% who are right wing bubble dwellers.
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    Stop lying you dumb racist fuck.

    No. Of DC residents on TANF:
    https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/ofa/2017_recipient_tan.pdf

    DC pop:
    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/DC/PST045216

    Rate: <1.5%

    Additionaly, 70% of those on TANF are children so wouldn't be eligible for jury duty (the supposed reason for your dumb racist sidebar).

    https://www.dcfpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/3-21-12-TANF-Overview.pdf
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  30. Dinner

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    Please stop lying by omission, you race baiting troll. That you even have to lie shows 1) That you are a shitty person and 2) That your position has no merits, troll.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/21877399

    Fact! D.C. has the highest welfare rate in the entire country and higher than all 50 states. 22% of the population and that is just a single program. Start throwing in other programs and the numbers climb higher.
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