The news sites include: Press Tv, Al Alam Tv, Al Masirah TV (Iranian), Palestine Today (Palestinian), Karbala TV (Iraq), and Al Forat News (Iraq). Some news agencies, like Press TV, are now using their backup domain, http://presstv.ir, until they can find out why the US has seized their US based English website. Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/22/...qPS6ezf1CkI8Rr7deikDQXdZiATphXbAi2iTkxoDVnAXE https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...UAe9mJq_2OwrrKOrZHoNMeBKUqCtXKcsRgCQK37dm9bKY https://www.13abc.com/2021/06/22/ir...Epa-jbabGO0J7ODIOmfRknDHxLpjzJMVIMGMnOiq9y5Bk
How is the US government censoring foreign news sites in the name of "preventing disinformation" progress?
No, all you did was put your propaganda over someone else's news which, incidentally, is what the US is going to do. First they came for the communists, and @Chaos Descending was like "finally, progress!"
What right does the United States have to shut down the press in the name of "preventing disinformation" when the United States has a serious issue with disinformation itself? OAN, Fox News, MSNBC, and a host of other news outlets engage in disinformation every day, and they're still running just fine. I wonder why that could be? One of the news agencies was a Palestinian news agency. Goddess forbid they speak openly in the United States. Might make Israel look bad. Well, no, at this point Israel outright murders people and they don't look bad to the US, and it's because we do it, too. So what's the difference here? What could be the point in revoking the ability of a whole segment of several Middle Eastern nations from being able to tell people in the US what they see and hear on the ground? How long until other foreign press agency websites are seized in the name of "disinformation?" I'm sure Bolivia's on the map there, somewhere, maybe Cuba, Venezuela, can't let that dangerous "disinformation" get out and mislead the American populace.
How were they censored? You linked to the “backup domain” yourself. The only thing they are no longer able to do is operate U.S. domains. I have to say I’m not sure about the reasons for this move, but it is clearly allowed under U.S. law.
Yes, their Iranian domain, and my point still stands. Are you okay with the United States government seizing websites that they feel spreads disinformation, even if there's no substantive proof of that disinformation beyond it being foreign and at odds with a US narrative? This is important, because about 30% of internet traffic passes through US servers, primarily AWS.
There's no substantive proof that Holocaust denial is disinformation? Yeah, I know. A lot of people here deny the Holocaust all the time, but they have the 1st Amendment. I'm not sure other country's state media have the same protection in the U.S.
Pretty sure it was the sites’ connection to the Iranian regime that got them shut off, not the slant of their narrative. Since I don’t know the reasons for this particular action, it’s difficult to know whether and to what extent I approve. It certainly seems to be legal.
There's no substantive proof that the reasons these websites were seized is due to disinformation. PressTV was doing a big story on new Iranian leadership, and they were following the continuing apartheid in Israel, yeah, they were speaking up for the Palestinians. That seems to be a real sensitive subject right now for the US. The problem is that the US government decided you didn't need to see it, and seized the website that was showing news they believed you didn't need to see. If it were China, some of the people here would be shitting bricks at how evil and totalitarian China is for doing such a thing. Russia? Hell, Russiagate goes on and on as if any minute Putin's going to walk into the White House and claim it for himself. Yet the US government is doing and so far the response seems to be "they had their reasons." It's an Iranian news agency based in Iran. It's like how if a reporter from CNN was kicked out of an overseas embassy because "they're connected to the US regime," the nation doing the casting out would be seen as fearful and oppressive. Now, the US is doing it to a bunch of Iraqi, Iranian, and Palestinian news agencies. No matter which way you slice it, this isn't a good precedent to set. The US government stole the actual news website. They had to load up their backup on an Iranian server to stay functional. The .coms were owned by foreign news agencies, and the US just took them. Why is that okay?
Richard Medhurst, a British journalist, who had a show on Press TV, explains what has happened. You'll want to start at the 16 minute mark: https://rokfin.com/stream/6638/US-Seizes-Press-TV-and-Multiple-Foreign-News-Sites
Who owns Time? Seriously, though? Your answer to the US government's seizing whole websites from news agencies is "but the US government says Iran is bad." Well, when we eventually go to war with Iran, at least no one will be surprised. We have a Paul von Hindenburg in office, and you guys will just walk right into it. I guess government censorship is good after all, as long as it's the US doing it to foreign news agencies. Who knew?!
No. Marc Benioff, the CEO of Salesforce, a cloud computing company, owns Time magazine. Marc bought Time because he felt it was a matter of "trust:" https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/29/media/marc-benioff-time-magazine-reliable-sources/index.html It is in the best interests of people who have a shitload of money to continue having a shitload of money, and making sure you're given the information that is needed for you to reach the conclusion that it's perfectly okay for them to have a shitload of money. Jeff Bezos, for example, owns the Washington Post. You read what Jeff Bezos says is okay for you to read. Still, those are private entities, US entities. These agencies are foreign press agencies, and the US has decided you don't need to see what they have to say. None of this bothers you? The US seizing foreign news agencies in the name of "disinformation" does not give you any pause at all. None? Also, Palestinians are Jews. Knock that shit off.
I'm glad our media is privately owned and not State run. Also, no one seized foreign news agencies. They seized the hosts in the U.S. And if they used those same U.S. based hosts to spread disinformation to influence our election (even if it was against Trump), the no...I don't have that much of a problem with it. And before you go there, I wouldn't have a problem if another country did the same to us for the same reason. And what do the Palestinians have to do with this?
One of the news agencies that was seized was a Palestinian news agency. It was also in response to your asshole "the Jews" remark. I'm not anti-Semitic, I'm against the apartheid that Israel enforces in what was formerly Palestine. Palestinians are Jews, too, despite the Israeli government's strong desire for you not to see them that way. As for being glad the news is private and isn't state run, I won't try to dissuade you from that belief, but damn, I may need to call you about your car's extended warranty.
Have you considered a time share? Seriously, though, I don't know how it doesn't bother you guys that they do this.
It concerns me a little, but I've learned the hard way not to overreact when news first hits the 24 hour news cycle. I want to hear more.
Not even. They seized the domain names. The hosts are still up (they’re probably in Iran/Iraq/Gaza or some Caribbean country via a CDN to begin with). Which probably makes this relatively ineffectual (see every attempt to stop PirateBay by seizing its domains) and also probably legal.
If you don't support freedom of speech for those you disagree with, then you don't support it at all.
Oh, look, the far left is lecturing again, this time putting theoretical principles above lives. Other countries are trying to stir up a civil war here - and as we've seen recently, they might just succeed. That will be a cataclysmic event if it happens, so of course the US government has the right to protect its citizenry from disinformation campaigns such as these. It's no different than shouting fire in a crowded theater. And yes, there are limits on free speech, many of which the far left tends to support, such as hate speech and inciting violence. But it's the US doing something, so that means it's BAAAD. The term useful idiot never gets a chance to get retired.
Again, why are they not shutting down FOX, OANN or Newsmax? If you don't want to answer that, you might also ask why they haven't shut down Russian or Chinese propaganda sites that are pushing the divisions in the US. One might reach the conclusion that Iran and Iraq are 1) simply easy targets or 2) Islamophobia is still acceptable.