Guy had a knife and was stabbing white people declaring "this is for Syria". http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/leytonstone-stabbing-gruesome-video-shows-6962101 As long as you keep letting animals in this will keep happening.
According to the witness in the story he shouted "This is what happens when you fuck with mother Syria all of your blood will be spilled!" Now we can wait for their Muslim councils to tell the British press that a true Muslim would never use the F word.
Speaking of scum bags... Muslim "protesters" hold up a banner saying "Open or die" to Macadonian border guards. https://www.reddit.com/r/european/comments/3urnxt/this_open_or_die_banner_was_unfurled_directly_in/ When they don't get what they want they threaten violence and if you do give them what they want the animals use violence any way because that is what animals do.
I wonder if a little part of @Dinner will die when he pulls the lever for Trump or will he have completely regressed to the point where he embraces it?
Well, it raises a serious issue. As European countries accept more and more Muslim migrants, they put themselves at greater and greater risk of serious homegrown terrorist attacks whenever they act to intervene in the Middle East. But if they don't act in the Middle East the jihadists will take over the rest of the region and the terrorist attacks will be even worse. A lot of these men are coming from local cultures that are based on violence and threats of violence. And not just ordinary violence, but violence meant to terrorize and intimidate. It could even been in their genes, since the Muslims who were the best at intimidation, murder, and violence got to take as many wives and sex slaves as they could, just as Genghis Khan spread his genes with so many women in Asia that now 8% of the males in part of Asia have the same Y chromosome. Nature Paper
Much the same way your genetic line is predisposed to willful ignorance, thinly veiled racism, and sodomizing livestock.
Everyone descended from the Prophet (PBUH) through his two grandsons is carries the title "Sayyid", and it's traced through the male line. There are 15 million of them in Southeast Asia. They're almost uncountable in the Middle East.
IIRC, Europe (in general) has been warned for decades that they were playing with fire with a large number of unassimilated Muslim immigrants.
Not yet! Anyway soon the anti-gunners will be spouting "if they had guns in England this would have been much worse!" Well guess what kids - where there is a will, there is a way. You can't tell me it's 100 percent impossible to get guns into England. It's more difficult because it's an island? There's the chunnel isn't there? And are drugs smuggled into England? They must be unless they grow their own poppy and coca plants. There might be more of a demand for and use of guns in the future. Just sayin'
While that rosy future Oldfella paints is fermenting (or not, could all just be fap material), the last couple of actual Jihadist attacks in the UK have only involved bladed weapons. Despite the length of time since the death of Lee Rigby (and the use of guns in the French attacks), this Jihadist doesn't seem to have figured out Oldfella's logic about guns being easy to come by via the black market. In fact, you'd almost think that this attack was the work of a deranged nutjob who simply grabbed whatever weapon was most easily available, rather than going to the trouble of locating criminal contacts and sourcing an illegal firearm. Result, one serious (possibly fatal) injury and two minor, with the suspect tasered and in custody. American news networks wouldn't even get out of bed for that. Yeah, I'll take our "can't just walk into a store and buy a gun" system, thanks.
You've only been bombing Syria for a few days. These first attacks are just random people with random weapons. ISIS is probably checking ferry costs for taking a load of automatic weapons, explosives, and RPG's from Belgium, Holland, or France to the UK. What's the cheapest option? Do they serve food on the ferries, and if they do, are the meals halal?
Indeed you can't get a gun easily, and maybe the local nut job can't either. But if the extremists in England decide to get ambitious.......and there aren't enough armed cops to intervene within minutes if not seconds as they do in the US......things could get ugly fast. Imagine if the Pasadena couple could have kept on shooting/bombing for 30 minutes until the special team of armed cops were dispatched. I don't want to imagine that. Hopefully I'm wrong and terrorists don't start doubling down on weaponry in England and Europe in general. As for terrorists bringing guns into the US there's no point - anyone can get them. But trying to buy explosives here sends up red flags since Timothy McVie for example. But since we have a Swiss cheese border with Mexico the drug cartels (they rarely turn down work, loving money and whatnot) can use their existing infrastructure to bring god knows what into the country. But let's not forget the Boston marathon crew - I think their bomb was made from local materials but I could be wrong. We can definitely be fucked like chuck from all directions here shortly, and again I hope I'm wrong.
One notable. In 2005. The only other two I'm aware of, no-one was hurt except the bombers themselves. Well, in the attempted Glasgow Airport attack, the guy who kicked one of the bombers as he ran around on fire MIGHT have hurt his foot.
If you've got an electrical outlet, air, and water you can make as much RDX, HMX as you want. If you also have access to anti-freeze, corn starch, sugar, or cotton you can all kinds of other explosives. We used to make explosives with electricity but quickly converted to high-pressure, high-temperature methods that were cheaper at industrial scales, but the equipment for them also takes a huge investment. I'm not sure if jihadists in Syria and Iraq are producing explosives on that scale yet, but they might be using facilities of the former governments. The cheap and easy small scale setups is probably something to worry about, and I don't know if those methods are in use in Syria or the Gaza strip or not.
Yeah, but if they figure out how simple it is they could come here and set up shop. Heck, in California they could almost hit industrial production levels because everybody would assume the enormous power bill was from growing indoor marijuana.
Yet more evidence the best way to keep the body count down is to ban guns. Sure, getting stabbed sucks, but you just simply cannot do the damage of a gun with a knife in the same amount of time. This means police have more time to intervene and all the people with those hand to hand combat skills might be able to defend themselves.
You've already crossed that bridge. The Muslims now have final say on your government and culture unless you unite, and everyone knows you won't. The Muslims have us all figured out, at our core, because they've already done this a hundred times. Their victims may thrash about in somewhat different ways,, they may beg in novel fashions or bargain cleverly, but in the end it doesn't matter. The most that you can hope for is to be like Lebanon. We always grab at the nearest excuse, but the real reason is that we're soft and tasty. Quit being our excuse. Quit being a rabbit spinning a convoluted tale about why everything loves to eat you.
It's real window into the paranoid and fantastical world that gturner inhabits; I certainly wouldn't want to live there.
But would it make sense to ban guns in a country like the US where there are already 300,000,000 million of them? And I would guess that unless human nature changes, the bad guys would not give theirs up, making their jobs much easier. Regardless, guns are "banned" in England so there it would be super-productive for anyone bent on mass mayhem and some serious cash to procure a gun and cut loose on smaller less protected towns where even cops might not have guns, let alone any citizen. A handful of extremists could hold that town under siege and decimate them. But I support a 100 percent US gun ban if the military and police start the ball rolling by turning theirs in! We would the moral high ground as the most peaceful place on earth!
That the things you suggest don't happen and that America has vastly more gun deaths than the UK (absolutely and proportionally) is strong evidence that the idea that guns protect people - a constant refrain one hears in these discussions - is false.
300,000,000 million guns is not enough for safety. We must have 50,000,000 million more! Then you'll see!
They don't happen now that is. And to be honest the right to bear arms is and should be an individual right. You the individual are not responsible for or obligated to making your entire country safe. You can however reserve and practice your right to self defense/recreation or whatever else you want to do with guns as a law abiding citizen. That said you the individual should be punished harshly for abusing that right. In other words, if we stopped releasing violent felons back into the world in our revolving door system instead of limiting the rights of the law abiding to safely use a gun, we would be better off. Yes, granted it's easier for a criminal to get a gun in the US. So knowing this, let's up the punishment for gun crimes! For example my step-brother has in his long criminal career committed at least two (count em' two) gun crimes, yet he is going to be released from prison yet again in a couple of years. There is a 100 percent chance he will return to prison unless he dies before hand. Odds are pretty good his next crime will involve a gun. In this case is this a "gun" problem or a "people" problem? By people I mean the criminals and The State Of Illinois. If you want to be a violent felon, head to Illinois, about as "soft on crime" a place as you will find when it comes to violent crime. No fucking wonder Chicago is shooting each other up. Those trigger-happy shit-stains know they will be right back out in a few years to do it all over again. And limiting my guns in Georgia will not stop my step-brother in Illinois from shooting up the joint. Locking his ass up forever will help though. Release a non-violent criminal and put his ass in the cell. Mission accomplished! But it's easier to limit my rights than to manage the violent criminals, right? Maybe in your mind.
I think it's far more sensible to base our views on what is actually happening, rather than what we imagine might happen; people have very vivid imaginations after all. You may well think that owning guns is an individual right - and while I think that such a right causes far more harm than good, that is at least a defensible position - but that is a totally different argument than 'guns protect'. As for 'stronger punishment', the US has the largest prison population in the world (both absolutely and proportionally), i.e. it practises strong punishment, and a lot of gun crime. This is strong evidence against the deterrent effect that you're talking about.
