New Wisconsin governor tries to bust unions

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  1. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    "Unions" aren't bad. Some unions are beneficial, some are corrupt. It's just like any other organization of people with a similar goal.
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  2. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    Screw you. I give 10-15 people jobs at any given time. Before you condemn business owners, why don't you try to sit in one of our shoes for a while?

    What do you do, except make your living from business owners who are advertising legitimate enterprises, Mr. Radio dude?
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  3. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    Doesn't matter to me whether anyone views them as good or bad. What matters to me is whether I anyone is forced to deal with them.
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  4. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    We can have all these without unions. :shrug:

    I'm with Albert on this one. The issue is choice/

    As a human being, you should be free to associate with others in order to further your own interests.

    But, also as a human being, the businessowner should be free to decline to negotiate with a collective.
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  5. skinofevil

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    Can you say for certain they wouldn't have been absent Marxist-inspired bullying? You can't, because since the advent of unions, we've never been absent Marxist-inspired bullying.

  6. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    I haven't worked in radio for several years. Try to keep up, will you? Just for the record I spent the last two years working for a charity that assists the families of special operations personnel killed in combat or training. So what are you doing to help our soldiers Mr. Titan of Industry?
  7. RickDeckard

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    There is a clear trend against those things in societies with weaker unions.
  8. skinofevil

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    And of course, the presence of unions is the only differentiating factor in those cases.
  9. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    Cowering in fear at the Messicans about to bust down his door.
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  10. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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    They have been directly responsible for many of those advances. But please, suggest some other factors.
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  11. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    What are "Messicans" -- other than the Alinsky-inspired distortion of a very real and very serioys problem to which the Left is adament that no solution be enacted?
  12. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    "Alinksy-inspired?" You must be confusing me with...I don't know...someone who gives a fuck about Alinksy.
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  13. enlisted person

    enlisted person Black Swan

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    Plenty of unions where they work more than 40 hour work weeks. The 40 hour work week is a labor law that just states time and a half will be paid for anything over that. Unions actually fight secretly against better labor laws because better working conditions for all reduce the need for Unions. Unions haven't done a damn thing to get us better laws, that is just lies.
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  14. Eightball

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    Im sure they would have no problem with a deduction on their checks entitled "CEO Yacht collection fee".:bananana:
  15. Eightball

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    Then why didnt we have this before? Why did unions arise in the first place? There is only one choice, united we stand, divided we beg.
  16. Zombie

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    :wtf:

    Florida is not a union friendly state nor is it moving towards being one. If anything Governor Scott is wishing he'd started out doing to unions what the Wisconsin governor is doing. Hell he might still try.

    Those are the only two sentences I agree with. ;)

    I'd rather live with the freaking Taliban then the New Yorkers who keep coming down here and trying to turn South Florida in to New York City. If you like New York so much stay the fuck there!
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  17. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    You know the old joke "Happiness is a Canadian headed north on I-95 with a New Yorker under each arm"
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  18. skinofevil

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    Bullshit. Bull fucking shit, you worthless fucking liar.
  19. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    ^^ Don't worry, dude, I doubt my tourism dollars will be bothering you any time soon either, with such an inhospitable and unwelcoming attitude. It's all good, San Juan compares favorably w FL, and Cuba is turning capitalist and will soon beat So Florida too. Plenty of good places nearby to piss away dollars in the form of beer and cocktails pool and beachside.

    Oh, and Zombie, your boy Mikey39877234 here was the precise anecdotal evidence of a union cocksucker that I was referring to, and I even said it in one of the dozen replies in this thread to the misplaced ideals and shortsighted perspective expressed by Mikey23439984 as he weeps for the poor sad public workers' Unions.

    Either Mikey3432341 is just trolling, which is entirely possible though he's not much good beyond some insults, or you got yourself one of those union cocksmokers that needs fixing. Somebody's programmed this simpleton to spout the same nonsense that's so popular with the New York liberals he claims he dislikes.
  20. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    How did you pass the bar without being able to read?

    Oh and Zombie, if you hate asshole Yankees and like beer (Q.E.D) we'll get along just fine.
  21. Zombie

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    High speed rail is useless in Florida.

    First that $2.4 billion is only for the Tampa to Orlando run. Where's the money going to come for the other tracks? It's going to end up being mostly Florida that pays for it as the feds aren't going to have any money for it.

    Second it's crazy that Mike, a leftist who doesn't like corporations ;), is now beliving that the winning bidder will cover cost overruns and maintenace costs. The naivety is staggering.....Florida will get stuck with those bills.

    Third, Florida has to run it for a minimum of 20 years. That means that even if there are not enough riders to support it (like Tri-Rail which Florida is on the hook for) Florida has to operate it even if it results in a finanical loss. And it will be a loss because no one is going to want to pay to ride a train when they can drive there faster and cheaper. This isn't klike the North East corrider of the country where you have lots of finance, business, and government officials going back and forth. (high speed rail would be good for that area) The rail in Florida would be served primarily by tourists going to Disney World (and the area) which means there will not be enough people to support it.

    And Mike....If you bothered to pay attention you'd see that Governor Scott got rid of both state planes. Perhaps you were too busy foaming at the mouth over the R by his name to notice..... :shrug:
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  22. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    I've never read a word of Alinsky. I barely know who he is. You have me confused with a Glenn Beck caricature of what a "leftist" is supposed to be.
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  23. Tuttle

    Tuttle Listen kid, we're all in it together.

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    Who said I passed? For that matter, where did I say I could even read?
  24. MikeH92467

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    Oh I noticed. Of course, he's still flying around in his own plane. Cheaper and faster to drive between Orlando and Tampa? Make the I-4 commute for a week and get back to me on that one. Oh and if you think I'm a leftist, you might want to readjust your political compass.
  25. Eightball

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    Thats right up your alley, everything that comes out of your mouth is shit.
  26. brudder1967

    brudder1967 this is who we are

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    While unions were needed at one time, they have outlived their usefulness.

    To quote that great sage of our time, Janet Jackson, What have you done for me lately?
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    I have to agree with that. I think that all union membership should come up for a yearly vote by secret ballot. Closed shops should be illegal. This would make unions earn their money or go bye.
  28. skinofevil

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    Y'know, if you lie once and it doesn't work, you're ballsy. You've lied twice consecutively and it hasn't worked either time; that makes you retarded. Quit while you're behind.
  29. frontline

    frontline Hedonistic Glutton Staff Member Moderator

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    Well for me one of the chief differences between an "inflated private sector salary" and an "inflated public sector salary" is that I am paying for one through my taxes and the other I can voluntairly pay for. Also private sector salaries are market driven. You cant tell me how you could justify an $80,000 a year janitor (a possible exaggeration on my part). Truth be told that when the government wants the services of a market driven technician (I.e. the computer expert) he or she is normally brought in as a contractor. Why is that? Because in the public sector and its ingrained promotion policy there is no way that the whiz kid 22 year old could be brought in and paid a commensurate salary when it would exceed the salary of the 25 year tenured secretary.
  30. MikeH92467

    MikeH92467 RadioNinja

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    You mean you can't really run government like a business?