NPR is a Propaganda Outlet

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  1. Ten Lubak

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    It's definitely not racist to claim that the virus got started in a Chinese lab but boy oh boy a lot of people that are racist were making that claim! :lol:
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  2. Jenee

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    I cannot take seriously anything you say regarding the credibility of news sources as you cannot seem to differentiate between news and propaganda.
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  3. Nyx

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    I feel this needs to be said in a thread like this:

    Joe Biden sucks, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Donald Trump is a piece of shit.
    China isn't trying to turn you Communist.
    For that matter, Joe Biden isn't a communist.
    Immigrants aren't being sent here to vote for Democrats.
    You're more at risk of being murdered by the white guy living next to you than any "illegal."
    For fuck sake, Joe Biden's not a goddamn communist.​
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  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    From your own link.
    So a whole big fat nothing burger. Again, sounds like conspiracy theory.
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  5. 14thDoctor

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    Drink bleach. :)
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  6. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    It’s not hard to figure out why illegal immigrants are being allowed in, it’s to grow the population and by doing so the democrats gain more seats in congress then they absolutely will try and grant them citizenship so that they can vote.
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  7. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    :tinfoilhat::conspiracy:
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  8. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You’re forgetting that NPR is tax payer funded. I know you like to play pretend dictator and certainly don’t care about free speech, but NPR absolutely should have other options on, even the ones you don’t like.
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    Then maybe Trump shouldn't hire them to work at his resorts. In fact, if you treated the business owners who hire illegals the same as someone who robs a bank (you know, jail), then the number of people trying to get into the US illegally would drop dramatically. Because there'd be no demand for their labor.
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    Less than 1% of their budget. Oh, and the US government buys ad time on every MSM outlet, as well as numerous online sources, so if you're going to claim that NPR is tax-payer-funded, then so are 90% of all outlets. (Heck, the US government even pays for stuff to be in movies and TV shows.)
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    I just love giving variety to the boys rep count. Do you guys follow the other reps he has, or disperse it over dumb, facepalm, and fantasy world? Perhaps throw a GFY in there, or maybe a teh babe.
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  12. Ten Lubak

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    If that's true why do you think immigrants hate Republicans so much?
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  13. We Are Borg

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  14. We Are Borg

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    :wtf: You totally undermined your whole point with that statement.
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  15. matthunter

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    The only outlet FF is familiar with dumps shit into the water supply.

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  16. matthunter

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    Perhaps. I'm not convinced China gives a shit if we turn communist (not that China actually IS, any more than Russia is these days), but that we are economically enslaved to them.
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  17. Nyx

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    China is concerned about China. Folks need to put away the Sinophobia they've been taught (it's especially bad in the US) about this notion that Chinese people are sneaky, underhanded devils, the so-called "yellow horde" just waiting to steal our resources and defile our women. China's doing just fine, building their own culture, their own civilization, their own government. That the US will bad mouth them openly while greedily taking anything they can get from them says more about the lack of principles the US has than it does the Chinese people and their government.

    I mean, keep in mind the US will literally be like "China houses its citizens, but at what cost?" or "China works to feed its entire population, but at what cost?" it's all designed to fear monger, to make you look over your shoulder. China is a socialist country moving towards communism, or at least making the effort to do so. Meanwhile, the United States is having a hard time figuring out whether or not children being fed a school lunch is basic human decency, or damned filthy socialism depending upon how much profit can be wrung from them, while also letting a person with asthma die because they can't afford their medication.

    The rest of the West needs to snap the leash the US has them on, while they still have credibility, and before the US pulls them under with it. So many people are still living in a Cold War, and never stopped to question why.
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  18. We Are Borg

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    China and Russia are actively working to undermine and destabilize Western democracies, both covertly and overtly. Anyone who denies this either hasn't been paying attention or is a useful idiot. I agree that a lot of this strategy is about economics but the statement, "China isn't trying to turn you Communist" ignores the very real danger that the CCP poses. As one example, there is a ton of public-source literature about the CCP's links to organized crime and the global distribution of harmful illicit drugs.
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  19. We Are Borg

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    Shut up, commie.
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  20. tafkats

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    I don't think exporting communism has ever been a big part of China's governing philosophy. The Comintern (the primary organ devoted to spreading communism) was Soviet-led. It was the USSR, not China, that actively pursued a policy of setting up communist satellite states — there never was a Chinese equivalent to the Eastern Bloc. And the USSR played a much larger role than China in supporting socialist governments in Latin America.
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  21. Ancalagon

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    Oh yeah? Show your work.

    Explain to us NPR’s funding model.
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  22. matthunter

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    And we're trying to undermine them.

    Are we trying to turn them capitalist?

    Half the issues with them ARE their economic influence, communism doesn't fucking enter into it.
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    So?

    As fucked up as most Western nations are (and we are fucked up), liberal democracy is still a better system than what exists in countries like China and Russia.

    At least we pretend to care about human rights. :lol:
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    I have to agree with this. Yes, the U.S. has problems. Lots of 'em. But I'd still rather live here than in China. (And if you wanna talk about feeding people, China ranks lower than the U.S. on the Global Food Security Index. The countries that score highest on that index are the ones with market-driven economies tempered by strong social safety nets and regulations to prevent abuses.)
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  25. matthunter

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    Are we trying to turn them into democracies?

    Or are we just trying to ensure they collapse to the point they can't threaten us?
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  26. We Are Borg

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    Why not both? :ramen:
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    The US has openly stated that it does not want a world where China can compete against the US. It's about cornering the market on everything rather than a form of market cooperation that China advocates. The US is a very jealous nation when it sees another country have something it wants. I don't think anyone would be surprised by that notion.
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  28. Ancalagon

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    Under Mao it definitely was.

    In fact that was part of Sino-Soviet Split. The USSR had pivoted to ‘Socialism in one county’ as a demonstration and even while they still supported communist revolutions they believed like Marx that industrialization and the creation of a proletariat class was a necessary prerequisite for communism. Maoism however said that there could be a rural peasant led communist revolution which opened up a lot more of the world to communist insurgencies which Mao philosophically and materially (to the extent China could at the time) supported.

    Everyone focuses on Deng’s domestic reforms but cutting CCP support for terrorists from Europe to the US to Africa to Peru etc was equally important in getting China out of ‘Rogue State’ territory.
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  29. Ancalagon

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    China is no longer Communist they are just autocratic.

    China doesn’t want to turn you Communist is correct.

    China does however want to discredit liberal mixed market economics and democracy. They would love for more of the world to pivot to their state controlled capitalism and totalitarian single party government rule.
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