Obama Announcement: OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD

Here's one weak-kneed pablum puking liberal's whiny ass complaint:

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It's Shep Smith. The guy is a weak kneed pablum puking liberal whiny ass. I'd have to hear Nepalitano's comments in order to comment on them.

It's right here: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201105020016.

Minute and a half in.

Actually, Shep Smith may not be a liberal (I'm not sure if he's taken a firm stand) but if you listen to his tone and delivery, his "off the cuff" comments in particular, he's sure as hell no right winger. He can be a bit snarky at times and you get the sense he'd love to be even more so.

Napalatano is a Stossel-style Libertarian. He blatantly disagrees with a lot of the big name Fox people from time to time.

I'm surprised to hear Shep actually come out with an open opinion, but the Judge isn't surprising at all.

You got another source.

The Dutch Army? Maybe if another dyke (keep it clean) gets a hole in it they may be able to handle it. Well, maybe a tiny hole.

The Dutch UN Commander let thousands of Muslims get slaughtered at Srebenica...this was when Muslims were the underdogs and most nations favored them over the Serbs.

The video in question is from Fox Business.

I aint going to media matters to watch it.

What's the matter, might see something that might cause some cognitive dissonance?

Nope I'm simply not gonna give those dishonest fuckers the traffic.

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That loops back to the Huffington Post piece. Thanks it's bad enough I went there once already today.

I find it pretty disheartening that they've got the damned thing whatever the reason be it inept mechanics, poor pilot skills, groundfire, or design failure.

We'll never get the full picture of what happened I fear. I do know that even oblitherated it's still now in their hands.

Can't wait for the TeeVee miniseries.

WOW!

That's cool. A stealth helicopter.

Well, now we know why the Commanche died. She didn't, she just got bigger.

Napolitano: “Osama Bin Laden assassinated, killed on the illegal whim of the president.”

You do realize Mike that Napolitano was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, is a libertarian, against the patriot act since it first started, never a supporter of Bush (or Obama), and has been talking about how the government is bad long before Obama became President, right?

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"When it comes to war, there is little difference between the Republicans and Democrats. Both parties' leadership is power hungry and blood thirsty, as there is no logical, ethical, and reasonable - certainly no lawful argument - for the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and, now, Libya"

It's not a stretch to think he would be against the ordered killing, and let's face facts that is exactly what happened with Bin Laden, as he would believe that assassination should be illegal.

Also I don't think Shep did a good job clarifying what he meant by illegal. Certainly violating another nations sovereignty was illegal. Not that I personally give a damn though....

Which is completely stupid. It is hardly a whim and it is hardly illegal.

But anyone who expects any decision of any President to be unanimously approved simply is not being realistic. There will always be those who will disapprove, and criticize, and grasp at any straws in order to somehow try to discredit what is done. There is no sense in getting upset over them. Laugh and point, or pity them, or ignore them, or whatever happens to suit your particular mental makeup, but don't let them get to you. They are not worth it.

Not convinced. I do not think it is always illegal to violate another nation's sovereignty. I think it is usually unwise and improper, but "usually" and "always" are not synonyms. As for "illegal," I am not sure the term applies. I do not subscribe to the normal concepts of "international law."

Say what you will, the hunt for OBL has been ongoing for over a decade. I wouldn't have cared if he was in Vatican City, the term illegal doesn't even fall into the picture afaIc.

Neither do I.

International law is a joke anyway. Countries will follow it when it is to their advantage and will ditch it when need be.

According to Pakistan the US was given permission to fly the mission, so where was the violation of another state's sovereignty?

Would they really say otherwise, whether or not they actually did give permission? I think not. If they hadn't given permission and the US did it anyway, that says to anyone and everyone that the Pakistani government is at best ineffectual, and at worst harboring al-Qaeda.

They could have just stayed quiet on the subject.

Where have you seen this? The pakistani's were totally in the dark about the mission, how could they have approved it?

They also are protesting it.

The Pakistanis are so embarrassed that they'll say whatever they have to at this point. It's pretty clear that they did not authorise the mission and that it therefore was a violation of their airspace.
That's illegal, yes. But it's a breach that I'd personally overlook given the importance of the target and other factors.

I'm much more conflicted about how it is beginning to appear that there was little or no effort made to take Bin Laden alive, and how the US establishment lied about this. While one cannot feel sorry for Osama, extrajudicial executions are not okay, on general principle.

^ As has been pointed out, had he been taken alive, his nutbag followers would he taking hostages the world over to try and get him released. It was never viable to arrest him.

As a practical matter, a terrorist like him with guns in his room and a history of stating he'd never be taken alive was a major threat.