I wonder where people get this kind of information. The average salary in Cuba is about $25 a month, but the comparison with western countries, or even others in the region, can't really be made on this basis because the economy is set up in a very different way. Cubans don't earn much, but they get: Cubans get free food allowances and are allowed to purchase additional rations of staple foods at cost price from government run bodegas and depots. Cuban utility bills are all highly subsidized. The monthly phone, electricity, and gas bill is only about $2. All medical coverage is provided free by the government. Gasoline is sold as subsidized costs. Education is completely free, even for older people wanting to return to school just for a few classes. Beer, alcohol, food is all sold by the state at cost or near cost. Rental rates for properties are controlled and most Cubans own their own homes. Property taxes and goods and service taxes are zero. If we look at the Human Development Index, we see that Cubans are on average better educated and live longer than most people in the Americas, including those in Mexico and Brazil. There are Cuban doctors all over South America. My doctor in Buenos Aires was Cuban; he seemed to visit his relatives there quite often. Brazil has a current programme (Mais Médicos) that has brought in hundreds of Cuban doctors to work there.
Thanks for validating exactly my point - it's a shithole. OMG OMG, so my quote was a bit out of date and over past few years Cuba *monthly*compensation increased from $18 to $25. Oh my fuckin god, it is well and truly a workers paradise now !! Honestly and sincerely, you belong somewhere else (very much like Cuba) if you can find anything but shame, embarrassment, and pity to express about our very very very inferior loser neighbor off Florida's coast. You are a fuckin joker, dude. Remind me again how many oz. of protein per month (from MEAT, not beans) the Cuban voter (joke, I know) is rationed? Is it now over 4 oz a month? Etc. etc. Fucking moron you are to come in here and counter-argue that Cuba is not somehow the worst example of an economy extant anywhere near the US (except perhaps its miserable peers).
No doubt. Which is why I didn't refer to Cuba as a "hellhole" and only as a "paradise" sarcastically.
Obama said the US and Cuba can learn from each other. Not exactly sure what we can learn from Cuba, except how to make everything look grimy and depressing.
If you get so when called out on your nonsense, maybe you should try informing yourself first before posting. You will look a lot less stupid that way.
Why do people keep trying to leave just about every country in Latin America to go to the US? There's your answer.
Except that other people from Latin America aren't willing to risk a staggeringly high chance of dying in the attempt, nor do they arrive and say it's better to die on their feet than live on their knees.
Now the White House is just trolling us. Valerie Jarrett tweet Valerie Jarrett ✔@vj44 "Cuba has an extraordinary resource – a system of education which values every boy and every girl" - @POTUS #CubaVisit Their re-education system is even better.
I think America treats our prisoners as good as Cuba treats their prisoner-citizens. Zombie? I find it fascinating that people can defend Cuba prison. That's why I find intuil or whatever a sub-moron with a vocabulary. Cuba prison remains a crime against every Cuban, but for Americans it's just an empty moral thing to give a fuck (yes, "empty" was sarcastic dig at our amoral lefties and elitists). That a government can shit on its population is outrageous when it's so close to the US (e.g. it's less offensive somehow when African states shit on its people like Cuba does).
Think I covered it pretty well. $25 a month and 4 oz of beef a month is a bucket-full of fail. Apes in the US live better than that. No sane or rational way to call it success by any reasonable metric. Except perhaps for fair treatment of prisoners.
Don't talk yourself down, you covered the fact that you know nothing about Cuba extremely well; you totally convinced me in fact.
Yup, turns out our we feed our Chimps better than Cuba feeds its population, at least when it comes to meat. "They are active throughout the day and feed on fruit, nuts, seeds, blossoms and leaves, insects, birds, birds' eggs and honey. Meat is a favorite food, and groups cooperate to hunt small to medium-sized mammals. ... The keepers work hard to make the chimps' lives as interesting and challenging as it is in the wild. They feed the chimpanzees several times a day by scattering their diet all over the exhibits. This keeps the chimps active and foraging much like they would in the wild."
I've been to Cuba, about 4 years ago (you're allowed to travel there where I'm from). On the whole I had fun, mostly because I like to drink. The pros: Sunsets Beaches CHEAP Cons: Mostly 3rd world No food in restaurants - rice and beans is the staple Very few things work, even in the resorts. For instance we had to change our room because the toilet was fucked CHEAP
There are two kinds of Cuban grocery store. The ones in Cuba look like this: Wanna buy the pineapple? A communist cornucopia Selling eggs by the egg. The other kind of Cuban grocery store is found in Florida. The small ones look like this: Unfair capitalist gluttony in Tampa.
Yep, that's why we are going to fix this problem by reconnecting them with the US economy. You seem to be saying Cuba sucks, let them suck. Whereas the President is saying, Cuba sucks, let's fix it.
But the president isn't trying to do anything to fix Cuba. He's out there praising their government and economy in front of the Cuban people. He's holding them up as a model to be emulated instead of a failed totalitarian hell-hole that people try to flee on inner-tubes.
He literally promoted democracy while he was there and even met with Cuban political dissidents. That shit is all over the internet. You're basically the only person saying otherwise.
Except for all the, you know, news stories about his trip. Did you listen to his speech? It would make you want to declare war on the United States.
Used to be the only time we tolerated (or enabled) bastards to abuse their populations was when they were our bastards. I'm not against changing things because I find it outrageous what Cuba's leftists have done to their people, but I do not approve of enabling the kind of bastards that we find in Castro and his fellow elites. They certainly face no shortage of fine living and probably get some meat to eat every single fuckin day, if they want it.
I already know you are stupid, but do you really think the best approach would be to humiliate Castro in front of a crowd of Cubans?
The one where his speech was published, along with all the other crap he said when he was down there. Some of my favorite parts in his speech: In the United States, we have a clear monument to what the Cuban people can build — it’s called Miami. Uh, the Cubans didn't build Miami, they fled to it on inner tubes. Cuba has an extraordinary resource, a system of education which values every boy and every girl. They value every boy and girl so much that they're not allowed to leave. And in recent years, the Cuban government has begun to open up to the world and to open up more space for that talent to thrive. For a Cuban, thriving is having two inner tubes. But he did get something right. Cuba has a socialist economic model. So does Bernie Sanders. We will not impose our political or economic system on you. So Democracy and free markets are out. I'm guessing they won't give up their inner tubes. I’m also confident that Cuba can continue to play a important role in the hemisphere and around the globe. The "important role" they've played up to this point is sparking communist insurgencies and revolutions. We took different journeys to our support for the people of South Africa in ending Apartheid, but President Castro and I could both be there in Johannesburg to pay tribute to the legacy of the great Nelson Mandela. Yeah, Cuba's role was joining with the Soviet Union in leading a massive civil war in Angola. And in Cuba, we want our engagement to help lift up the Cubans who are of African-American descent, who have proven there’s nothing they cannot achieve when given the chance. Crap. He's going to start a race war down there. It's what he does. We’ve been a part of different blocks of nations in the hemisphere, and we will continue to have profound differences about how to promote peace, security, opportunity, and human rights,... The Cuban method, as Che put it, is the pedagogy of the wall. (The wall is where you line peasants up and shoot them.) I’m sure there’s a narrative that lingers here, which suggests that Cuban exiles ignored the problems of pre-revolutionary Cuba and rejected the struggle to build a new future. There was no future in Cuba. The place hasn't had a fresh coat of paint since Fidel seized power. All the Cuban who want to build a new future hop in an inner tube and try to make it to Florida.
No, we shouldn't do jack shit to force government change in Cuba. We did that in Iraq and Saddam's removal left that little void that fucked the region over. If Castro is going to be strung up like Ceausescu, the Cubans will handle it. Normalizing relations with Cuba will help the process of helping Cuba up far more than offing Fidel and Raul.
