Oldest Known Fragment of the New Testament Found

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  1. Man Afraid of his Shoes

    Man Afraid of his Shoes كافر

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    The COC believes in the strict, literal interperatation of The Bible. If the Bible doesn't say it, they don't believe it. They also tend to believe that it's infallable. I've never heard of a member of the COC imply that parts of The Bible might be allegory.
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  2. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I knew a few folks from COGIC (church of god in christ) I but didn't know shit about their beliefs.
    The one person I knew (military black chick) was a very nice person.
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  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I think what we're seeing here is that Dayton's true faith is the Church of God in Dayton.
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  4. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    Not the same church oldfella.
  5. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I'm sure you are right - I'm a layman! Jesus......god..... christ....saints......
    whatever. All recent developments by my brain. I'm more interested in 100,000 years ago
    until about the advent of agriculture. That was the peak of humanity IMO.
    Anything else is fluff, the effects of a post-agricultural world, Judaism and Christianity falling into these categories
    BTW.
  6. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Aw, c'mon. Those pre-Christian Celts and Vikings were a lot of fun. :D
  7. Chardman

    Chardman An image macro is worth 1000 words. Deceased Member

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    It's taking (using) the Lord's Name in Vain (as in vanity).
  8. Dayton Kitchens

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    6) God doesn't force humans to conform to human or his standards of morality. Their compliance would mean nothing if it isn't voluntary

    5) Same as above.

    4) What is your point?

    3) IIRC from the Bible there were significantly fewer after the 40 years of the Exodus. In fact only TWO adults who left Egypt (Joshua & Caleb) entered the Land of Canaan, their reward for faith in God)

    2) Gods goals have been to save the souls of humans. Not their lives.

    1) I'm not sure from what I've read that the "different versions" of the Bible actually differ from each other significantly.
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  9. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I read that the "40 years of wandering" to get to the promised land was bullshit because there was already a travel route established about that time and that the trip should have only taken about a month. That taxi driver was totally ripping them off! :shakefist: And forty fucking years? By the time they got there I bet the neighborhood had totally gone "ghetto". :yes:
  10. Dayton Kitchens

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    Of course they could've gotten there a lot sooner.

    The Israelite's were cursed to wander in the wilderness for 40 years because of their lack of faith and disobedience.

    I thought that was very clear.
  11. Tuckerfan

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    I am not going back through this thread to figure out the context of the comments.
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  12. Ten Lubak

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    Damn, imagine what you'd be cursed with after your domestic violence and hit and run incidents.

    I mean the Jews aren't so bad but you're a disaster.
  13. Dayton Kitchens

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    I've never turned my back on God and started worshiping false gods.

    Which is infinitely worse than a minor slap and driving away from bumping a vehicle.
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    How can you be sure?
  15. Dayton Kitchens

    Dayton Kitchens Banned

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    ?

    About what
  16. Nono

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    Faith, blind faith. Which Dayton appears to display in quite a number of realms.

    Anyway, no point talking about it. People will believe what they want to believe and no power in the universe can stop them.
  17. Dayton Kitchens

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    You're an expert on that given your unsupported belief that George W. Bush stole the 2000 and 2004 elections.
  18. Nono

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    I rest my case.
  19. Tuckerfan

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    Maybe start here. This is an ancient Gnostic text which was discovered in the late 18th Century and mentions him more than the Gospels seem to do. Don't worry that it starts part way through the text, none of it is terribly comprehensible.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    And that is why sentences should never start with the word "and".....:nono:
  21. Tuckerfan

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    Oh, like this is any more comprehensible.
  22. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Perfectly!
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    That makes trump tweets look good.
  24. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Saw something in Nat Geo where they now CAT scan a rolled-up ancient scroll. The scan reads the ink as denser than the paper, then a program virtually 'unrolls' the scroll and maps it to a flat plane, easily readable. So we can read it without even unrolling it and risking damage.
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