oldfella's "get up and get moving" ya'll thread!

Okay first off: I have a cheap camera, it doesn't capture all the detail
second: this ain't a beauty contest! Just pics to give you a general idea of how I roll with exercise
third: yes I know I'm packing about ten pounds more fat than ideal - my body fat percentage
has creeped up to 18 percent.
Get me motivated! Shame my lazy ass into cranking things up to "eleven"! Help me help myself to live a little bit longer & healthier!

my "high tech" equipment! that doorway chin-up bar is AWESOME engineering
The rucksack I put weights in for added resistance with push ups & chin ups






yours truly....as my step dad used to say "not bad for a lightweight!"
my right arm circumference is 3/8" more than the left -go figure!

Well fuck me running! And I mean literally f%$# me running - I think I have bronchitis! Now I can't do cardio training until it runs it's course which could be WEEKS! I'll cough up a lung and be a hazard to others at my gym. I haven't had bronchitis since I was in the army (if I remember correctly) so I had to google the symptoms. And most of the time there isn't jack shit the doctors can do except alleviate the symptoms.

Now the worst part - I can't go "all out" on my resistance training either because my energy is drained.

It's the first month into a new year - I have my training calender hanging up to track my resistance training workouts & run times and weight/measurements to track my body fat and now POW!....right in the kisser!

Now I have to tweak & alter my training and eating habits significantly. Yes of course I will make an appointment since the doctors might be able to shave a little off my sick time so why not?

But this was inevitable - lots of sick people at work lately and my son is sick too.

okay....as the Mandelbaum family on Seinfeld said......IT'S GO TIME! First day actually in the gym doing cardio since I contracted bronchitis around 18 January. I've been doing resistance training at home only and even with that I've had to tread lightly, so I don't start up with uncontrolled coughing. Thus I have to ease into the cardio, moving at a snail's pace which will suck but I don't want the other gym patrons to think I'm having a medical emergency.

If I wait until the bronchitis is completely over that will take forever, and set me back. My fat level is creeping up because I'm not revving up my metabolism. And I'm a firm believer that keeping your blood circulating can only help heal you, as long as you don't overdo it.
I forgot just how much bronchitis sucks because I haven't had it since many many years ago. I honestly don't know how you cigarette smokers deal with bronchitis when you come down with it!

I get bronchitis every few months. I hate it but I generally stop and rest for a week to stop it developing into a chest infection.

weird - as I said I got bronchitis a lot when I lived in Germany, and the UK too. Not saying there is a connection to where you reside but could it be a factor?

Yes, damp cold conditions are common places to see bronchitis, as are places with poor air quality (see heavy industry), similar factors apply to asthma (the bane of my life)

well that would make sense why I had it so much! I'm just now getting over mine and my strength is 100 percent of what it was just prior to getting it, and my gas tank is about 90 percent so I can't complain! Cardio always drops off faster than strength from inactivity or reduced activity, so no big surprise there.

You're like me, I can go weeks without touching a weight but my top end deads and squats barely suffer.

Running is another matter.....

strength on the big lifts that take a long time to build up to stays the longest. Muscle size though (for those that are into size versus strength) especially recent mass gains goes away fast when guys can't exercise due to injury or illness or whatever. A lot of this is because the big lifts use tendon & ligament strength (and technique) as much as actual muscle.

Absolutely, it's amazing how many bodybuilders can't squat, whilst little guys are more than a match pound for pound. Muscle is only one component of strength as you say, technique, mobility (especially hip), coordination, stability and efficient neural activation are all paramount. Additionally it's amazing how many people fail to grasp the importance of good posture during lifts.....

"Absolutely, it's amazing how many bodybuilders can't squat, whilst little guys are more than a match pound for pound. Muscle is only one component of strength as you say, technique, mobility (especially hip), coordination, stability and efficient neural activation are all paramount. Additionally it's amazing how many people fail to grasp the importance of good posture during lifts....." spot 261

because a lot of guys get hung up on the numbers (how much they can lift) and form takes a back seat. And some people get hung up on how many reps they can do, and you know form is going to go out the window there too. But yeah if your posture isn't as good as you can get it (we are all build differently) on a big lift and that weight gets away from you? You aren't stopping that momentum - you can permanently injure yourself.

@oldfella1962 , Dodson v Yan, WTF was that all about????

I couldn't watch the event because I don't have ESPN+ streaming service. Since ESPN now has the UFC contract my UFC viewing opportunities are very limited. I actually have more access to Bellator now. That said Bellator 216 wasn't even televised! I would have loved to have seen the Cropcop versus Big Country fight. Both those guys are legends.

I'm guessing ESPN's unavailable for some practical reason?

That sucks

The UFC is now under an ESPN contract and almost all their events (regular UFC, and UFC Fight Night for example) except reruns of classic fights are on the new ESPN+ streaming. Sometimes prelims are on regular ESPN television, but not the main cards. So to watch UFC events I would have to subscribe to ESPN+ which is a "sports" channel which is for all sports - basketball, baseball, etc.etc. which I have no interest in.

That said a Bellator event last night was televised but I only saw the last two fights because I was spending time with my wife up until about 10:30 or so.

You need to get her interested!

Failing that find a bar or somesuch which streams it?

Guilty secret, we get it on BT Sports which I don't have - but the Sky service at work does......

HA! All this exercise enabled me to save my job! Let me preach on it:
yesterday I had to attend mandatory annual training on security bullshit. I missed last month's class because I had a doctor appointment.
For this month's class I had no excuse - I absolutely had to attend! The location of the training was (all names are made up for security reasons) Victory Theater, part of Victory Complex. It's about 1/4 mile away from my workplace so I walked there. So I leave with enough time to arrive early to give me a good seat - these things are packed with folks. So I notice the sign-in line isn't moving. I ask some folks and it turns out I'm at the wrong place! This is some graduation ceremony and the theater is Davis Hall - Victory Theater isn't even in Victory Complex. They say Victory Theater is about a mile away. So I have only a few minutes before it starts - once the class starts no late comers are allowed in.

I won't have time to backtrack and get my car then drive to the theater and find a parking place. I'm FUCKED! With our contract about to change hands this will not bode well for me!

But then it hit me.....I can just try to run there! So wearing heavy steel-toed work boots and jeans & sweatshirt I did just that, hoping it was closer than the folks claimed. I just took off at less than a sprint but faster than I normally train for. Yes, I got some strange looks because I was sweating profusely and running in work clothes and was just about gassed. But I made it with about two minutes to spare, and I was off the hook & out of trouble. Later I looked at a map and I ran about one kilometer - not far but I did it at a kick-ass pace in heavy boots!

The main takeaway here is you never know when your hard work will pay off when you least expect it!
The secondary takeaway is don't assume anything, like Victory Theater being in Victory Complex - this is the gub'mint and common sense is not their forte.
The tertiary takeaway is if you have a weak mind (like yours truly) you better have a strong body to make up for it!

NEW PERSONAL BEST! Fourteen (count em') fourteen chin-ups! Not bad for 57 years old.
I don't train specifically for max chin-up numbers, usually doing pull-ups for multiple sets. But occasionally I'll do chin-ups to make sure my training progress is going forward, not backward.
If I don't get side-tracked by family matters I might go for a one mile run personal best later in the day. That's my favorite distance for running, but most cardio days I treadmill walk uphill (15 percent grade for the majority of the workout) for a set amount of calories in a set amount of time.

Side-note last night I had a dream that I ran a marathon which is weird because I have no interest in distance running. And towards the end of the marathon I realized that I was wearing jeans! And I gassed about three hundred meters from the finish line (my house) and had to crawl, leaving a trail of drool down the street.

I think that if dreams actually have meaning to them, this was a wakeup call/gut check that my current fitness program is getting too easy, and that I need to kick it up a notch!
Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum!

Sweet! that's good going, most teenagers couldn't do 14 straight!

that 3/8 difference is maybe from the sledge hammer and side favouring/asymetric motion? I know my one side is larger/firmer becuase of some of the motions and weight distribution in construction. Probably where most of my exercise and the damage I do to myself comes from is work related. Lot of ladder climbing and overhead weight bearing stuff is good on the muscle building, but breaks down the joints. Some folks have arm and leg days, others have push vs pull programs... for me its reaching or squatting, depending if I'm building a floor or a ceiling that day.

Nutritionist told me that my BF is down around 15%, but knowing you, I suspect you're using a more precise set of parameters than she is. From the pics it looks like you've got a bit more surface fat than me, but a likewise amount more muscle underneath. You've also probably got a lot more sustainable endurance. If I recall, we're about the same weight, but I've got a few inches on you?

When I was a teenager I couldn't do more than a few. Glad I turned that ship around over the years. Anyway if I get up to 20 chin-ups I can win a US MARINES t-shirt at the next Marines public event - they pretty much always set up a chin-up bar for this purposes of advertising/recruitment.
For my next trick - 10 chin-ups wearing my 25 pound ruck!

yes it's true that weight bearing is great for your muscles (they will grow stronger to adapt) but can tear your joints down over time. I used to work construction - it's no joke. That's why if you try to do construction work or even exercise to the level that you did it at age 30 it can take it's toll. Nearly every guy I know over 40 who has a sports related injury messed themselves up either with a bench press, squat or dead lift. Those are the "you got this bro! It's all you baby! Git some, git some!" lifts. I won't do these lifts - it's not worth the risk of permanent injury.

If your nutritionist said you are 15 percent she's most likely right. There are a lot of ways to measure it and if done right they all come out with similar results.
The Air Force used to do a "water displacement test" or something but the Army used a simple tape measure - some testers use calipers to pinch/measure fat in key areas, some use electrical current resistance, etc.etc.

Funny thing about "sustainable endurance" and having been military - then construction - then military again I can compare them pretty well.
The two occupations really are "apples & oranges" to a large degree! When I was doing construction at age 26 I doubt I could have ran two miles in thirteen minutes. But when I joined the army and trained consistently to do this, it was no big deal. But if I had to work construction all day in the hot Phoenix AZ weather with only two 15 minute breaks in an 8 hour shift?
I guarantee it would have kicked my ass six ways from Sunday until I got used to it! In the army some days sucked, but when I worked construction every day sucked!
I guess it's all about that paycheck we need to survive!

IMHO nothing physical I ever did in the army (or air force) was as hard or dangerous on a daily basis than working construction.

yeah, it's rare that I'll be overheading anything worse than my end of a sheet of plywood or drywall, and while I'll run the chipping gun, no way I'm dancing withthe jackhammer or doing the pick and shovel routine... that's why we hire 24 year olds. I've got a few back and shoulder troubles from way back that are getting problematic... not debilitating, but I do get creaky if i get lazy on the stretching. I try to stay away from anything repetitive that's going to be more than 50lbs. Happily, when the weather is too heavy we take it easy and break as needed. The one good thing about cigarettes is that they're a break timer. (Day three of prepping my Zyban prescription though-gonna quit properly this time!)

I've got a fairly lean diet, and I'm fortunate that we have a lot of variety for lunch hour food. About the worst thing I'll eat all week is when we have to hit a Subway because we're in the suburbs, although good burrito places are getting easier to find out there. Just had a bunch of tests done last week and the only hting that's really off is my "good" cholesterol is above the median, but still within range of normal. I was kind of surprised to find out I'm as healthy as I am!

Running 2 miles isn't even something I'd try now, but biking 5 is nothing. it's a straight shot to the waterfront trail that goes across the city for me. My walking pace is about 4mph, factoring in stop lights. When I lived in Kingston some years back you'd often see military personnel from either the local base or the military college running along the side of the road. I sure didn't envy them...

Funny thing you may not know. I went to a military private school when I was young... besides the several times a week 3-6 mile runs through the country side, we were frequently assigned laps as punishments and lap running with a pack for more serious infractions. That was the source of one of my older injuries as they didn't have the smarts not to use a framed pack.

oooh - running with a rucksack/pack is not a safe idea. it can shift around and throw you off balance and other bad things. Matter-of-fact when I was in army basic often it was a bitch
to walk at a fast pace with a heavy rucksack. Walking & running use different muscles - so if you started falling behind it was nice to just run to catch up and give your hip muscles a break, but you better hope the drill sergeants don't see you!

About ten years ago for about a month I had to ride a cheap bicycle to and from work, about ten miles each way with some seriously long hills! The worst part was the traffic! There were no "back streets" so I had to bike right next to cars & trucks that were going 45 or 55 miles-per-hour. There were no bike lanes or bike trails either. One time I got forced off the road by an 18 wheeler and went ass-over-tea kettle over the handlebars and face-planted in one of my favorite t-shirts and ball caps! I cut the shit out of my head and got blood all over the shirt and hat, ruining them.

Luckily my head stopped bleeding eventually, so I didn't have to take a detour to the hospital (it's right down the street from my office) to get stitches and checked out for a concussion.

Definitely an "I'm too old for this shit!" moment!

okay I can see how this might be a good tool for kids to "nip it in the bud" before they develop bad habits that kill them by age forty. Call me old fashioned, but the best "app" there is to get kids to not turn into Orca is.....wait for it....PARENTS WHO AREN'T FAT ASSES! Imagine that....parents who give a shit about their own health and set an example. Sorry but this reeks of one more way for the parents to not have to get involved with their kids - let technology baby-sit their kids!

I'm sure we've all noticed that fatness tends to run in families and it has little to do with genes, but has plenty do with eating & exercise habits. Yes, sugar is everywhere, portions are bigger, etc etc but how can you expect kids to avoid all this when their parents can't even do it? Just my 2 cents! Discuss!

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yi should v xena for Halloween!

I should be Zena for Halloween? Well that would be the scariest thing my neighbors would see that night that's for sure!

Would consoular troi or Jadzia dax scare them too?
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Jadzia_Dax

I don't know who/what these people are.

DS9 amazon prime video and Netflix has the series.
https://www.amazon.com/In-Puragtory...0&s=gateway&sprefix=deep space,aps,165&sr=8-5