One reason I've supported President Kitchens

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  1. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Uncle Sigmund would be proud. :yes:
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  2. El Chup

    El Chup Fuck Trump Deceased Member Git

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    A statement is not defamatory if it is true. Dayton has frequently displayed a level of stupidity and incompetence on here that, in my opinion, makes him unfit to teach children. My view is supported by his poor career record, include firings and sanctions against him, so that's an arguable defence right there. Besides, Dayton couldn't afford to sue someone abroad anyway. Don't worry, I think I've got this one Perry Mason. :lol:

    Neither have I. You're not reading properly again. :lol: That was Chad.

    Yes, I can believe this. Your years long obsession with me, despite getting little to no engagement from me, proves it.

    Oh no! A completely anonymous keyboard warrior who devotes years and years to dropping tens of thousands of pointless internet ratings on strangers without reaction dislikes me! Whatever shall I do! :lol:

    Oh pweeeeeaaaassseeeee like me Fwashie! Pweeeeeease! :rotfl:
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  3. K.

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    No. I am not combing through our emoticon hellscape to find one of our irony meters. So there.
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  4. The Flashlight

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    If you don't have anything more substantive to offer than pointing out typos, then stay out. I've got something planned for you later, I promise. :)
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  5. El Chup

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    "If you don't have anything substantive to offer" says the guy trying to create a drama out of a five year old troll thread. :lol:
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  6. The Flashlight

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    You would have a better argument that he's a danger to kids based on his alleged history of domestic abuse, especially if his children witnessed it, rather than your bullshit rationale of disagreeing with his political opinions.

    Of course, you'd have to prove that the domestic abuse actually happened.

    Oh yeah, let's talk about that for a moment. Exactly how the fuck do you know that Dayton ever hit his wife? Were you there? Did you witness it? Is there video footage? Is there a police report? Any charges filed? No, no, no, no and no.

    "But Dayton has admitted to it on Wordforge."

    So what? How do you know that anything he says is the truth? How do you know he hasn't made the whole thing up? How do you know he isn't the type of person to invent stories about himself to get attention, even if its negative attention?

    You know jack squat.

    Overlooking for a moment the fact that you also demonstrate stupidity and incompetence here on an almost daily basis, the fact that Dayton expresses opinions on political and social issues you don't agree with doesn't make him unfit to teach children.

    Who cares what your opinion is about his professional competence? If Dayton is actually a teacher, that means he successfully completed all prerequisites for becoming licensed, and as far as the state of Arkansas is concerned, he's qualified. It's at that point you can take your opinions and shove them straight up your twat.

    But you're shifting the goalposts here. The clear implication of your statements from 5 years ago was that Dayton represented a risk to the physical safety of children, not that his knowledge of history or classroom management techniques was deficient. And that's defamation.

    Your view is supported by farts and fairy dust.

    First, I don't pretend to know anything about this man's work history or details about any job he's had in the past. I also don't pretend to know anything about why he may have been let go from any job.

    And that right there is the big difference between myself and you. I don't presume to know anything about anyone here, and I don't assume that just because someone says something that it's the truth.

    I'm also not pathologically obsessed to the point where I'm going to dedicate time doing research to try and dig up dirt on someone here. That's you, bunkie.

    But to address the substance of your statement, being fired from a job isn't evidence of anything. People are fired for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with their qualifications or their work performance. Look no further than @garamet famous tale of victimization concerning Probe. If you believe her version of events, she wasn't dumped due to the quality of what she wrote, but rather the machinations of her rouge's gallery of villains, Rock Star et al.

    Yes, I can believe this. Your years long obsession with me, despite getting little to no engagement from me, proves it.

    Sorry, most days you're little more than an afterthought. I know that must be difficult for your inflated ego to handle.

    Dumb reps really seem to stick in your craw. I think I'll give you some more so I can watch you whine a while longer.
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  7. El Chup

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  8. Professor Sexbot

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    No. A case of defamation would involve Dayton having to prove that El Chup made a statement that he knew to be false. The burden would be on Dayton. El Chup would not have to prove anything.

    Since Dayton said it on Wordforge, it could be reasonably assumed by El Chup to be true.
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You'd think the "lawyer/therapist/whatever-else-he's-claiming-today" would know that, wouldn't you?
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  10. The Flashlight

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    Chump's subjective state of mind is irrelevant. Maliciousness is a requirement when suing the news media, which is why its next to impossible to ever get a judgment against even the National Enquirer.

    Besides, he's now claiming that Dayton is a danger to kids based on professional incompetence, and basing that assertion on the fact that he disagrees with opinions Dayton has expressed here.

    If you think that's a defense to a suit for defamation, I'd really like to see you sitting at the opposing table. :rolleyes:

    No. A reasonable person doesn't take things written on boards like Wordforge at face value.
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  11. El Chup

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    He probably did a two second google on libel and read an English website. Over here the onus is on the person making the statement to prove it's true. Of course, this is a US based website and Dayton would have to sue in the US so what Sexbot says applies. Even if he won (he wouldn't) he'd have to then try and enforce any judgment against me abroad, which would include needing to have the English Courts approve the judgment for enforcement. He'd also have to convince a court in the US to allow him to bring proceedings several years after the limitation period expired. Plus, litigation is extreme expensive, without even the limitation and foreign aspects added, and Dayton couldn't remotely afford it. It's these little details that unravel Flashie's ludicrous claims of not only being a lawyer but having a clue about litigation. :lol:
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  12. El Chup

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    Then Dayton has no problem does he dumbass? :rotfl:
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  13. Professor Sexbot

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    My, aren't you full of bluster when you have a keyboard to hide behind.

    You made a statement that was demonstrably false. Let me refresh your memory: "Of course, you'd have to prove that the domestic abuse actually happened."

    For a defamation case to be made, the burden of proof is on the "victim" of that defamation to prove that the statement is: published, false, injurious, unprivileged. This is a fact. There is no arguing here.

    Further, El Chup saying "Dayton is a danger to children" is an opinion. Defamation does not cover opinions.

    So, anytime you want to meet me across the opposing table, I would be glad to take you to school again. I would consider it a Mikva to publicly educate a slobbering dipshit like yourself.
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  14. El Chup

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    I'm not sure this is going quite how Flashie planned.... ;)
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  15. The Original Faceman

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    Flashie’s motivation is to call Chup out for his hilarious Dayton obsession. An obsession which Chup hilariously denies. Dayton says a lot of absurd things. Shocking if true. But Chup licks it up like the puppy that he is. If there’s any train wreck more interesting than Dayton’s posts it’s Chup’s pathological obsession with Dayton’s taint.

    Unfortunately El Chup has me on ignore because he can’t take what he dishes. He’ll never read this.
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    They seldom do. You'd think he'd learn, but he's dimmer than Dayton.
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  17. El Chup

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    More damp squib than flashlight.
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  18. K.

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    Huh. They say Yiddish is universal, but the dialects can kill you. Did you just say you would consider this a bathtub?
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  19. The Flashlight

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    No. Totally, completely, absolutely wrong.

    The victim of defamatory statements does not have to prove that the statements are false. The perpetrator has to prove the truth of the statements to establish a defense to charges of defamation.

    Somebody who doesn't like Professor Sexbot runs around calling his employer, his church, the country club where he plays golf, his neighborhood homeowners association, and tells everyone he talks to that Sexbot is a child molester and should never be left alone with any child under the age of 10.

    Does Sexbot have to find every child he's ever had contact with and get them to submit to forensic interviews in order to prove he's never molested anyone?

    Of course not.

    Can Sexbot sue the perpetrator for making unsubstantiated, uncorroborated, per se injurious statements?

    Of course he can.

    The perpetrator says "but I have a sincere and genuine belief that Sexbot is a child molester."

    What's the basis for that belief? Aliens sent him secret messages through his smart phone? Sexbot posted on a message board 5 years ago that he wasn't totally convinced that Michael Jackson was a child molester?

    Is that what a reasonable person would believe? Has Sexbot ever heard of the reasonable person standard?

    I call up Sexbot's employer and say "I've seen a picture of this guy and he looks like a child molester to me, he's dangerous." That's an opinion. I don't have any proof Sexbot ever molested anyone. But I've besmirched him and damaged his reputation. If the employer is spooked enough to fire Sexbot, you don't think that's actionable?

    You are an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about. Your law degree must have come off the back of a matchbook.
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  20. K.

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    Hm. I have to admit that for all of @Flashlight's obvious lies, right up until now I did believe he lived in the United States. This sounds very much as if he doesn't.
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  21. El Chup

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    Yes, he's clearly not familiar with the differences in defamation inside and outside of the US.
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    You fools might as well be claiming that the sky is green. :lol:

    Fake news!

    I thought you hated Trump? :lol:
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  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    He probably meant mitzvah, but we'll let it slide. ;)
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  25. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Did you identify yourself by name and say how you came by this photo and what you were doing at the time? :yeehaw: Did your number show up on the employer's caller ID?

    If anyone's apt to be actionable in this :fantasyworld: scenario, it's you. Unless of course you're your usual coward and ID yourself as "Mr. Flashlight," in which case it's back to the asylum with you.
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  26. The Flashlight

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    Are you still loitering, hoping for some attention?

    I told you to be patient, I'll get to you later.
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  27. El Chup

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    No, he's means what he said I think. A Mikva is a method of cleansing one's soul and making one's self pure. He's saying that exposing Flashlight's stupidity to the world is a way of doing good and purifying his soul.
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  28. Dayton Kitchens

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    I fairness El Chup never admitted he did that and I've no evidence he did so meaning his denial should be taken at face value.

    I thought I knew who did it based on content and the wording used but he/she also denied it and I've never had any reasonable amount of evidence to implicate them either.

    It remains a mystery.
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    Yeah, sorry, obscure attempt at a joke there. Mikvah does literally mean bathtub, and gets the meaning of a cleansing ritual from there.
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  30. Professor Sexbot

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    Okay, then. If you are so sure you are correct, then provide a citation. Let's settle this once and for all.

    Apples and oranges. Calling someone a danger to children and making a specific allegation that a person is a child molester are two VERY different things.

    I never claimed to have a law degree. I just happen to know that you're wrong.
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