Paul down big in polls. No not that one, the Congressional one

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by ehrie, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. ehrie

    ehrie 1000 threads against me

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    As if the failure of his Presidental campaign weren't enough, all that exposure showed the Republicans back home that he aint one of them:

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    Paul has since put out a paniced letter on DailyPaul.com looking for money to fight in the Congressional Primary.
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    The Republican party is clearly suicidal. The only reason Paul hasn't gone Independent or 3rd party is because of Texas' sore loser law. If Peden beats Paul in the primary Paul could well run 3rd party. Even 5% of the vote in the general election is millions of votes, and given how poorly McCain is doing with the conservative wing of the Republican party, they can't afford that 5%.
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Well...duh. But, it ain't just Paul. In fact, he's the smallest dot on the list of GOP failures.

    Explain.
  4. ehrie

    ehrie 1000 threads against me

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    In Texas if you run in a primary and lose you can not enter the general election as an independent for a Congressional or Senate seat.
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    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    Well, that's just...stupid. An example of partisan politics at it's worst.

    Texicans, explain yourselves. :mad:
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    Texans have no tolerance for losers and whiny babies. We shouldn't have to tell you "NO!" twice.
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    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Joe Lieberman was only told "no" once...

    And he's arguably never had more power than he does now :soma:
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    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    It's not just stupid; it's almost certainly unconstitutional as well if applied to federal elections if anyone bothers to challenge it.
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  9. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I tend to think if Paul get's bumped out of his own district then the odds of him still attracting 5% of the vote is pretty damn small.
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    Nader didn't make 5% either. :bergman:
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    On what? Hookers and blow?
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    Good game America.
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    Kyle You will regret this!

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  14. ehrie

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    Stupid crosscountry blimp stunts.
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    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    The Ron Paul blimp campaign was done by someone outside the individual campaign.
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    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    You could make that argument, but you'd be wrong. The Republican willingness to filibuster everything under the sun at twice the rate of any other Senate ever combined with the Democratic lack of spine makes Lieberman almost entirely moot. Given the near inevitability of Democratic pickups in the Senate this year, Lieberman's main power is to hope for a McCain victory so he can avoid being kicked out of the Democratic caucus and can quit gracefully and take a cabinet position.
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  18. ehrie

    ehrie 1000 threads against me

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    Even in a landslide victory I doubt the Democrats would kick Lieberman out of the caucus. He surely deserves it, but he and the Democrats agree on enough of the domestic issues that I think in an Obama administration he could still be seen as an ally on many issues.
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  19. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Probably not technically, but surely they'd come up with a way of stripping his committee chairmanship, where he's been a disaster--remember: he's in charge of homeland security and government oversight and hasn't held a single oversight hearing, meaning about all he's accomplished since Novermber 2006 is to sit down with his thumbs up his ass, a smile on his face, and whistle dixie while the executive branch raped the notion of government accountability--and put a lot of pressure on him to resign to spend more time with his family. Lieberman will be in a very overtly hostile environment if the Democrats pick up a couple of seats, and he'll have no power at all.

    They agree on a number of domestic issues, more than they disagree on, but Lieberman doesn't really care about domestic issues. His passions lie elsewhere, in crazy land. Lieberman has, at this point, become a very slightly more liberal version of Rudy Giuliani, and while people might think he's not a good Republican, no one would ever mistake him for a Democrat. He may have a number of liberal beliefs, but what he really cares about is killing Muslims and blindsiding the Fourth Amendment.
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    ^ All true, but as you mentioned Senate Democrats are spineless.
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    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Well, I guess I retain some hope that they're not really spineless but just profoundly lazy narcissists following the path of least resistance, which, as they're politicians, isn't really too much of a stretch. There's no immediate personal or political gain from Democrats showing a spine, not with Bush ready to veto world peace if it doesn't include telecom immunity and the Republican party lined up behind him. Sure, principle might be involve, and justice might be at issue, but you can't really expect politicians to care about those things.

    But when Republican petty obstruction and Lieberman's enabling actually start to prevent the Democrats from getting things done, and there's something the Democrats can do about it, and the political cost to the Democrats, while in control of Congress and the Presidency, of being run over by the Republicans as though they were an 18-wheeler running over a bowl of pudding without the bowl is political exile for a generation, they might actually do something. Right now the Democrats aren't getting the blame for nothing good happening in Washington, but they will if things continue as they have with a Democrat in the White House, and they might if things continue as the have with a Republican in the White House but more solid Democratic majorities in Congress.
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    Seems Paul's not quite so down in the polls as it looks:

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzI5MTUyOTY3YTA0MTYzODkyNmNkNWMxYWJiZTAwMGE=

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    Until those pickups, the Democrats are in charge of the Senate at his leisure.
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    [action=Uncle Albert]didn't read the thread.[/action]

    So, can I still vote for him for president? :ramen: :discuss: :lolol:
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    Chris Peden has a good chance of pulling this off. Things are heating up nicely....

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    With the redistricting, there's a good chance that the north end of the district will have more influence... Which could get Peden in, or turn the actual election over to the Democrats.