Police Contributing to Positive Race Relations. Again

I'd very much be interested to learn about these "tort reform laws".

@Faceman? Any commentary?

What is it with you and red states?

Do you honestly think California is not the same?

http://www.vcgcb.ca.gov/claims/default.aspx

"Only if the claim is rejected or denied may the claim be pursued through the courts."

http://www.disabilityrightsca.org/pubs/522901.pdf

"In California, before you may sue a public entity (a state, county or local
governmental entity) or a government employee for money damages, you
must first file a claim meeting the requirements of the California Tort Claims
Act. California Government (Gov’t) Code sections 810-996.6. With very
limited exceptions, no lawsuit for money damages may be brought against
a governmental entity unless a written claim has been properly filed within
the six-month time limit"

Dinner is an idiot.

You've never been able to sue the government until recently when reforms actually enabled people to do such things.

Dinner is such a retard that he thinks states, red states, have made it more difficult to sue local, county, and state governments. It's not true however. Every state has made it easier to sue the governments within the states but you have to follow the right procedures such as filing a claim for damages first and so on. You can't just file a lawsuit on day one. It's a longer process.

Of course each state has it's own rules on how one would go about suing a local, county, or state government.

I freely admit I have never been shot and sued a city before.

You don't need to be shot to sue a city.

Well, I haven't sued a city either.

Stop telling Dinner he doesn't need to be shot.

I'm trying to sue the state of Georgia for selling me defective lottery tickets. I've been buying them for thirteen years now, and not one winner in the bunch.
I am willing to settle out of court BTW.

He might not have been shot, but the cops' treatment of Mr. Soto (the guy Kinsey was caring for) also highlights lack of police training in dealing with those with mental health issues. Poor kid is badly traumatised by the events:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/north-miami/article91472342.html

Wow - to be honest I didn't know that the cop who attempted to shoot Soto was a fucking sniper! Fuck me running, what are the requirements to be a sniper in that police force?
Hit the broad side of a barn two out of three (hundred) times? The army isn't perfect, but they only choose the best shots to attend sniper school, and many of those are weeded out, so the end result is.....not what you saw last week. Okay my mind was blown, now it's absolutely pulverized.

I doubt the guy was an actual sniper.

I've never been mistreated by law enforcement officers white, black or Hispanic.

OK, so some cops CAN deal with folk with mental issues.

Sometimes they just write themselves, don't they?

That could be the place. Maybe the media figures any cop using a "military" looking rifle versus a handgun must be an elite cop.

Most places around here I go law enforcement knows me so it’s pretty much “Hey coach, how’s it going?” Even if they don’t know me personally I often wear one of my several coaching shirts (why let free clothes be wasted) so they know immediately I’m a high school coach (and almost certainly a CDL holder).

I wouldn't say I've been mistreated but every time I've encountered one it cost me money - so seeing a cop is rarely a good thing. That said if they are responding to an emergency then I would probably be glad to see them. Unless you are in wreck and stuff flies out of your car and they steal it - which has happened here recently.

I got a ticket once. In 2005 IIRC. Going 63 in a 45 mph. zone. Cost me 150 dollars minus a 10 dollar discount for wearing my seat belt.
Norphlet High School was sent a notice about it.
Three years later.

I was verbally abused by a cop once. A California Highway Patrolman, in fact.

He was black, so I'm thinking it was a racial thing.









Couldn't've had anything to do with me being a punk teenager driving like an imbecile down a neighborhood street.

Key word here being "verbal."

But now that you reminded me, I'll copy a post I recently made in TNZ at Big Blue last week about the Blue Lives Matter thing, and why I'm more pissed about this than usual.

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There's a lot of street crime in black neighborhoods. That's why my mom took us outta there the first chance she got, and me and my brother lived in a relatively safe suburb where I as an AP student didn't have to worry about getting beaten up and my brother didn't get solicited by gangs in grade 5.

Looking back on it, it came at a high price culturally, because I honestly did think growing up that black girls like me who weren't getting pregnant in high school and had actual goals for getting outta poverty were a novelty; that deadbeats made up most, if not all black men; that we needed to put slavery behind us and pull ourselves up by out bootstraps and go get those opportunoties, damnit!

I didn't get it when other blacks online at Wordforge in particular shook their heads at my posts. Why the only other black woman was livid when I talked down about us....and that WAS what I was doing, unconsciously. I meant well, and I wanted better, but I'd been removed from those daily realities. My hometown has plenty of undercover bigotry and I've been to interviews that I'm certain I wouldn't have gotten if my name wasn't the whitest white girl name that 1000 others have on FB (it's not Anna, BTW ), but other than that, I didn't fear getting shot at on the rare occassion we did get pulled over.

Then, I joined the Navy and for the first time in my life I had more than just my family's inputs. There were the ones with mouths, but for every one of them, I met two or three outstanding sailors who'd did what I did to get outta poverty and were the best at what they did. Especially the black women. I learned more about what I'd missed growing up in white suburbia stationed overseas than I did in college for the same length of time.

Then, FB got big and people began postingore about the missing parts of black history...such as Black Wall Street in Tulsa that the Klan burned down. Or the daughter of a former Cherokee Nation slave who inherited 40 acres of land that her father's owner had given them for reparation that ended up having a TON of oil, making her the wealthiest heiress in America at the time.

And then, I got pissed. Pissed that so much had been taken from our people. Pissed that the history taught in school is selective. Pissed that there were others like me in the world and the media acts like there isnt. Pissed at myself for being naive all this time, thinking my grammar and education and service to this racist country means nothing and that if I got shot by a cop today, TIIC in the media would use the medicinal marijuana licence I have to paint me as some sort of crackhead druggie who was probably high when I got pulled over...never mind that I can count the trips I've made to a dispensery on one hand and I was the only kid in California that didn't know who to speak to to get pot in HS.

That was a lotta words to say this situation has been a long time coming and even black folks who'd remained relatively sheltered are waking up. I could blow off Zimmerman as being inconclusive. I could argue that MiKe Brown wasnt that innocent. But when they open fire on a 12 year old boy with a toy gun, enough is enough. And now Philando who had a legal.license to carry. Where's the NRA defending that right and demanding protection of the 2nd Amendment? Oh, right. They only do that when black churches, movie theaters and schools get shot up by "mentally disturbed young men who needed help."

Well, this went on way longer than I expected, but in case anyone had questions about why no one's listening to the "your community needs to police itself," that's part of it. We ARE doing our part in the shitty, broken system we have in place and we're still being painted as ignorant hood niggas anyway.

Fuck being polite.

Signed,

A Oreo No More.

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The short version of of all that is I don't like being lied to...not by family, not by society. Fuck, no wonder Vandy used to get so pissed at me when I dogged on black women .

I actually tend to get more outraged about racist shit than my wife does. But to paraphrase a quote from Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, she's always been more about "...you think of yourself as a colored woman. I think of myself as a woman."

She's never paid it much mind.

Maybe you have but were just too drunk to remember?

@shootER : I wish it could be like that for everyone.

Growing up, every tantrum and fit at school was scolded with a variation of "You're black and the only reason you're not in special ed is your scores are too high to try it." And " you're making your brother look bad before he even gets enrolled." Mind you, my brother joined Kindergarten, when I was NINE.

The only report card I ever posted up was fifth grade, first trimester. I had all As as we had a ridiculously easy teacher that at ten years old I could tell haves absolutely no fucks for the job beyond the music part he was later hired on for full time. But I didn't care about that: I'd finally gotten one report thst didn't mention my outbursts or not getting along with other student and I'd finally stopped being an embarrasent.

....looking back on it, it's a wonder I'm not more fucked up as a human being.

And the conviction has been thrown out on appeal, because of fucking course it has.

This got me thinking back to the sixth grade. I had a black teacher. Mr. Brown, and he was--I realize now in retrospect--a helluva good teacher. That was more than 40 years ago and he was a middle-aged man then, so I wasn't surprised when I (just now) found his obituary on Google.

Reuben Brown obituary in the Sacramento Bee.