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  1. Damar

    Damar Liberal Elitist

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    Someone’s ability to earn income is distinctly different from their ability to spend income. There are wealthy people who spend money on the dumbest things imaginable as opposed to poor people who are prudent with their spending habits.
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  2. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Translation: people are idiots. Welcome to Earth.
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  3. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    You are full of shit, making the assumptions that serve your preconceptions.
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  4. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    I don't give a shit about truly peaceful protest, and you need to give up this lie that I'm a Trumper.
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  5. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    you post something like that and then whine about my preconceptions?


    you've never presented anything but positions clearly formed from the prejudices of the comfortable. Someone who's never had (and likely never will) to put in more than the most minimal of effort to get by. my assumptions are based on what you've shown us and your perpetual displays of self aggrandizement and entitlements .

    so, sorry princess, but my preconceptions aren't really needed when you've constantly shown that you've never been at risk in your life.
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  6. Kommander

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    UA doesn't strike me as someone privileged enough to get by on minimal effort.

    I don't know much about UA's life specifically, but I have heard the same stuff he says from many different people. Based on what I know of them, they're hard workers. Their hard work doesn't make them as much money as they'd like, and most of the time they make less than what could reasonably be considered 'fair,' but it's enough to get by. They also tend to be bitter people who aren't blessed with an abundance of empathy. They don't want to work their asses off for what little they have, but they do anyway. That's just how things are, for everyone. "If someone doesn't have have enough to get by, well, I'm nobody special and I can do it. The only possible explanation is that they're just not willing to put in the effort."

    On the other hand, I've also known plenty of Alberty individuals who put far more effort into curating the perception that they're hard workers than actually working hard. Constantly bitching about what other people do does kind of imply "I'm angry about what they're doing because I don't do that thing." Lots of people who bitch about what other people are doing are hoping to draw attention to the people they bitch about and away from themselves.

    I'm going to go with "UA is actually a hard worker." Because it's plausible given the available evidence, and unlike some people, I don't assume the worst about people when there are other possibilities.
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  7. Uncle Albert

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    "Clearly formed."
    :dayton:

    Not everybody climbs up on the cross to wail about their "traumas" and "struggles" for that sweet, sweet victimhood credit. Some people just handle shit and get on with their lives.
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  8. Volpone

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    What about organ harvesting?
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    Performative stoic guy doesn't counteract performative victim, it's the same exact shit at a different playback speed.
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  10. Uncle Albert

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    And if it were performative, you might be glimpsing a point.
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  11. MikeH92467

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    I think you should put all your profits into DJT stock. That's a great way to own liberals! :congress:
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  12. Diacanu

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    *Snicker* "if".
    Okay, Ultimate Warrior.
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  13. Uncle Albert

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    Sure, yeah. I have SOOO much to gain from praise and accolades.
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  14. Diacanu

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    You wouldn't know how to process it. Which is why you're always in troll mode.
    Seek help.
    The dope ain't cutting it.
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    What about it? Do we have a problem here?
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    Projection.
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  17. Diacanu

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    You wish.
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  18. Kommander

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    I would imagine there would be a place for it, but I don't know if buying up people in bulk for the express purpose of selling them for parts is a viable business strategy. Currently, a full set of pristine organs sells for $48,945.66 on the wholesale market. And, well, these people don't exactly have pristine organs. Body parts contaminated with meth and scratch-off ticket dust don't sell for much. It's better to just make them work.

    I know we just tell these people they're useless to drive down the cost of labor, but some of them actually do turn out to be useless. I mean, the other day, one of my "workers" was pulled into a dildo press and broke his collar bone, and had the audacity to ask if he could take the rest of the day off to go to the hospital. Lazy piece of shit, your arms and hands work fine with a broken collar bone. Maybe selling that guys organs would have been a good idea.
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  19. Mirah

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    I feel sorry for the dog, eating thrown out cheeseburgers, probably with pieces of onion in them. POOR DOG!

    And as far as "poor" people-I've had better friends that were poor than friends who were rich.
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  20. Mirah

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    I was camping a group of people once on the San Juan Islands and we got rained out. This nice couple offered us a place to stay. Very humble accomodations, but the nicest fucking people ever and we ended up going back each year to visit them. After it stopped raining the guy took us out on his fishing boat, not expensive boat at all, we caught crab and maybe a salmon and ate so good that night. Maybe these people were rich but just lived humbly. Who knows. But if you were driving around the island and saw this place it wouldn't be the first place you would stop for somewhere to stay.

    I know Volpone wasn't making a point about poor people being unkind, but he commented on thier life choices.

    When I look at the homeless population in Seattle and Tacoma I just feel sad and I feel like there is not one answer that will solve all of it. And I am just thankful that should I ever loose my home I feel like I have family and friends who could help me out, so I just count my blessings every day that I have a roof over my head and food in my body.
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  21. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    funny, I've never gone on about my own shit in these discussions-jsut the people I work with.

    Still, like I keep saying, and you keep proving for me... you've never faced any truly overwhelming adversity in your life.

    that's okay... when the lead fumes or whatever debilitating injury finally put you to pasture there'll be someone like me there to take care of you as well.
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  22. Kommander

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    Regarding poor people wasting money when we have it:

    Yes, we do it. Sometimes it's deliberate, sometimes we don't know any better. Other times, we have no other options, and sometimes, it looks like we're wasting money but we're really not.

    From what I understand, people in general seem to think poor people should just take good middle-class financial practices, scale them down, and we'll be all right. That works to a point, but get below a certain minimum, and you enter the Quantum Realm, where the laws of economics break down and nothing makes sense.

    "Save money" is something I hear often. Quantum finances don't work that way. Money that exists is unstable, spend it, or it disappears. Being poor often means letting things go. When occasional extra money comes in, there's a whole pile of shit waiting that one can't really justify putting off anymore. Usually, the extra money doesn't cover everything. Even if it did, you just end up right back where you started, and the pile of neglected expenses starts growing again. The only way out is if you get a pile of extra money that's big enough to completely cover all neglected expenses, and have enough left over to prevent the pile from regrowing and to put toward improving your situation. That never happens unless you win the lottery or something. That's why poor people buy lottery tickets.

    So, extra money comes in. I could do the responsible thing and put it toward the pile of neglect, but then nothing changes. Or, I could put half of it in the pile of neglect, and use the other half to buy myself something nice. Now there's a change! Still no meaningful difference to the neglect pile, but now I have something nice! What if I just spend it all on something nice? The unchanging pile of neglect remains unchanged, but I have something even nicer! If it comes down to it, I can sell my nice thing in the future and have extra money again. It's practically an investment.

    That's why it looks like poor people waste extra money. Extra money doesn't come very often, and when it does, the only real choice a poor person has is if said money just disappears, or if they can buy a little bit of happiness.
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  23. Uncle Albert

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    "I only fail because everyone else has an unfair advantage and the world is against me."

    -every sore closer, ever.
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  24. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    nope, that may be your excuse but life's way more complex than that.

    like-"He had a decent job in manufacturing until an on the job injury left him unable to work for several months. In that time his sick benefits ran out and he was laid off. The injury was left un(der)treated and became infected, necessitating a below the knee amputation. The doctor prescribed a highly addictive and highly priced painkiller which soon became unaffordable through legitimate pharmacies without the partial drug coverage employment once had provided.".

    Heh-well, maybe really not that much more complex. Just more honest than you're capable of considering aloud.
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  25. Uncle Albert

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    The scenario you describe is a foreseeable one for which there is no excusing a lack of preparedness. It does not matter how anyone feels about that.
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  27. Uncle Albert

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    All of that shit has happened to people before. Plenty of history out there to draw from. No excuse for ignorance or apathy.

    Hope for the best but plan for the worst, or face the consequences you have invited with your own willful negligence. No skin off my ass either way.
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  28. Diacanu

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    Yeah, just be born invincible, and/or have precognition tight enough to see any accident coming.
    And arrange for those genetic blessings up on the unborn-angel-baby cloud by being really good at poker.
    That's all.
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  29. Uncle Albert

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    Observe reality around you and learn from the READILY FUCKING AVAILABLE experiences of others.

    Or just cower in your parents house, pretending basic adult functionality is impossible.
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  30. Diacanu

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    Yeah, yeah.
    Yawn.
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