Rep / Post Count Question

No, not that type of rep question.

Can we get number of reps (pos or neg) given added to the number of posts made?

I wouldn't even say retroactively, just from some point on.

My thinking is along these lines. I think post count is a good indicator of one's attachment and/or participation here. Yes, I know, this means Dicky is the most "attached" but the point is still the same. It takes time and some commitment to build up a high post count. To more accurately reflect this, I think we should bump post count when a rep is given.

What do you think?

Oh God, shutup.

Fuck no.

You've got to explain your objection(s) better than that.

Maybe require meaningful comments before they're counted this way?

Just an idea, I don't understand what your problem(s) are.

Ward agrees: zactly



I was talking to you.

I know - aren't I supposed to be all nice and lovey-dovey with my rep?

Still, the question is out there and it has nothing to do with rep warring or anything related. Just post counts.

I don't think post count should be adjusted based on Pos/Neg Rep, but I would like to see separate counts for PosReps and Negreps in addition to Post Count.

My thinking is that Rep of any sort requires interplay between posters--you can't give yourself rep, just others. So someone garnering more rep than others indicates that person makes this board a "more active" place to be. I wonder how plain old Post Count rankings would compare to something like a Rep/Posts ratio, for example. My guess is the top of each list would be quite different.

Rep is a violation of democracy, which is why I love it.

That's an interesting idea, too. I post a good bit but I often don't do anything at all but rep in some threads.

You can see posts and rep in community/members but there's no ready-made rep/posts stat out there. It might encourage people to be more positive (if that's what people want) without actually enforcing anything as some others have suggested (and rightly been shot down for doing.)

Nosing around, it looks like this would require some custom hack-work. O2C? Whattaya think?

Lanz, please don't support the democracy and right of everyone to impact through rep.

My God, I'm talking Babesquely.

Wait...so...reps would count as posts?
Well, shit, Jamey, Sokar, Megatron, etc would be "millionaires", wouldn't they?

Are they the sort of rabble you want to "reward"?

Wait, you guys want reps to be included in your post count? Oh hell no.

I thought you just wanted an easy way to see how many reps you given and received.

That's what I proposed--additional displays for Rep Counts.
- PosReps Given
- NegReps Given
- PosReps Received
- NegReps Received



Long live the Teal-colored Reign of Terror! :santa_ok:

Well, wait, wouldn't that tattle in the same way :repwhine: threads do?

So...you guys WANT the same information, just....not from humans...how does that work?

There already is a display showing pos and negs you've given, so that's kind of moot.

But, on topic, OK. We've got a no, a no, and a no. But no one really saying why they don't like it.

It would race up the post counts, that's for sure, but a rep is a comment, even if it is an "easy" one.

If you only think "posts" should have words and meaning behind them, then you could limit the reps that count as posts to only those with something in the text box.

Even better, start making rulings on the content of the actual posts made. There are some real stinkers out there that shouldn't qualify if you're going to be picky in this way.

Or we could just ignore your silly request and carry on as usual.

Since when have y'all ever ignored anything?

Ward, I don't like your suggestion because a Rep comment isn't really a comment. It's the click of a button, possibly with another comment. Which is basically the equivalent of posting "Me too!" or "First!" in a thread. And while those exist, we don't really have too many of them. So IMO counting Rep as posts treats wallflowers the same as those who create actual content with their posts, which I disagree with.

That's why I keep suggesting only counting reps with actual comments included in the counts. We certainly don't distinguish other comments which have little to no substance in the post count, do we?

If I take the time to do more than just click pos or neg then I've actually made a post, IMO.

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Nautica agrees: Not IMO.

Then what's the point of post count at all? I must've been misunderstanding it all along so someone's going to have to explain it to me.

Look, I just don't agree with you, and I've explained why. It's just statistics, you can read meaning into them (or not) as you see fit.
I'm just saying I'd like to see more of certain statistics. Raw, not doctored to have some meaning that you decide upon. So sue me.

I'm not trying to make you angry. I responded to your concern about the idea being a "me, too!" type of thing with the logical (but oviously misunderstood) statement that many posts are the same thing. I even gave a possible solution to the problem (only count rep comments of a certain length.)

If you don't like the idea, that's fine, but my asking what's the point of counting any of them is still a valid question. If the one can be misused, then obviously so can the other.

And, no, nobody post a poll. Please.

Post Count is, today, just a raw number. What's the point of it? To count the number of total posts by a user, regardless of content. What's the meaning of it? That's for each of us to decide, or not, as we see fit.

You're proposing adding meaning by adjusting the raw count in some relatively arbitrary method that you think adds value. I'm just saying I don't see the need. Show me raw counts for other data and let me decide what of it, if any, has meaning. That's what I'm saying.

Frankly, I think there are few enough "me too" type postings as to be insignificant. I only included that example in my post to preemptively counter an example I figured you would bring up.

It was just an example of a way to eliminate the "me, too" posts (if counting reps) since it was an obvious bone of contention.

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I know I didn't phrase it this way in the beginning but, since this is a discussion board, I think it's within the spirit of the place to be allowed to make some changes as a result of conversation.

How about this?

If I make a rep comment (not just give a rep), then I really have made a post. I've just given a rep at the same time. Shouldn't it count the same as making a regular post?

Ward, counting rep toward one's post count would be the equivalent of calling ketchup a vegetable.

Where is this? I know where I can find it on my own profile, but not for another user.

If anything, I'd like to see a neutral comment option for those times where I'd like to comment without giving a pos- or negrep.

Aside from that, I say the system in place works fine.

Different subject from what I'm talking about here but that seems OK to me, too.