Ryan Punts on Trumpcare

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  1. Eightball

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    The GOP is good at blaming, now they can blame each other.
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  2. Aurora

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    Bigly loser? Not the great dealmaster. Total disaster. So sad.

    It really is. The GOP spent the past 8 years screaming NOOOO!!! when Obama said the sky was blue. They did not spend the time with coming up with acceptable alternatives. Probably for anything.
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    ^Well, let's wait and see. The vote's not over till the previously vocal opponents of the bill spinelessly cave at the last minute. As the saying goes.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  5. Aurora

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    Pulled it. Now to see if they can come up with something more substantial :lol:
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  6. matthunter

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    Lol, ass-covering so Trump can claim he never actually lost the vote. Spineless little fucker.
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  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Booyah! :bananana:
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  8. Dinner

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    Yep, bill withdrawn. Republicans are unable to govern, they are an opposition party and nothing more.
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  9. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    lmao at everyone who voted R believing they would actually repeal ACA

    just lmao
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    One of the GOP members they interviewed this morning on NPR pretty much admitted that they were a good opposition party against Obama. :lol:

    Man, this was a shit show. :lol:
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  11. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    This was something like the 60th attempt at repealing ACA over the past 7 years. Except now Obama is out of the picture and the GOP controls both of the political branches with a clear majority in both houses of Congress.

    Yet they demonstrate once again how fucking inept they are at actually governing.

    It's almost as if most of them were voted in as a protest against Obama, and not based on their political capabilities. :chris:
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  14. K.

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    Ok, I admit I am surprised. I guess I underestimated the extent of the incompetence we're dealing with.
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    You don't say!

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    Word is this could be a 2-fer. As part of Trump's hard sell to the Freedom Caucus he said this was their one chance to cut Planned Parenthood funding.
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    These guys have had 6 years to get their shit together, this is pretty embarrassing.
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  18. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Trump's blaming the Democrats for voting against it.
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  19. steve2^4

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    yay democrats. Now maybe the non-batshit-crazy wing of the GOP will actually work with democrats to polish the turd* that the ACA is.


    *and as smelly as it is, it doesn't approach the noxious bullshit Trump has been peddling.
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  20. tafkats

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    Gee, whaddaya know ... fixing health care ain't that fuckin' easy.

    Something Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama could have told ... no, wait, they did tell us! Some folks just didn't want to listen.
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    Trump on the campaign trail: "if you can't make a deal with a politician, there's something wrong with you" :rofl:
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    What? You mean govern? They would never do that. They have that rule that unless the majority of the majority are for it then it never gets to come up for a vote.

    Seriously, they are a party set up to oppose not to govern.
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  23. Ancalagon

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    While I agree with the sentiment, it's actually been 7 years since it was signed into law. And if we want to be dicks we could point out it's been 8 years since Obama came into office and made Healthcare Reform his top priority.

    And got Obamacare passed.

    Because he's a winner.

    Not a loser.

    Like Trump.
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  24. Dinner

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    Now, now... I am sure Trump will have lots of time to fuck up other things. Oh, and despite Trump's claim they will no doubt come back to fucking up healthcare.
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    In all fairness, it took Obama and the Dems more than a year into his term to pass the Affordable Care Act. We never got a public option, despite how Obama campaigned on it, and attacked Clinton for wanting a mandate instead. That's not exactly a runaway success.

    Maybe if we did get the public option, premiums would be under control and Trump wouldn't be our head of state right now.
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    As I've said before, the best thing the ACA did was allow the chronically ill to not get booted off insurance and the Medicaid expansion. It's not great, but it was a lot better than what we had before.

    The issue now is the pricing because of insurance being the mediator between hospital and client and insurance wants to pay as little as possible.
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  27. Zombie

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    It's called work you flipping idiotic retard.

    And I'm very happy it failed.

    http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/2940387/

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    That Freedom caucus might as well become a third party.
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    I've been working as well and very glad it failed. Would @garamet rather have a shitty bill pass?
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    Non-sequitor. Your facts are uncoordinated. To me there are two viable options outside of going the National Health Service or Canada models: open up Medicare for everyone or allow everyone to join the health care plans available to federal employees. Both require an expansion of existing programs, but not a complete from scratch option.
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