Further evidence that the hierarchy of our legal system is public appearance, partisanship, procedure, and finally appearance of justice. I wonder if one can whittle this down to a partisan sound bite, you know like "Impeached for a blow-job." Forget facts, they only get in the way, let's just agree that Governor Palin is an open target, and everything is fair game. I honestly suspect that die-hard liberals know they crossed the line in their treatment of Palin but can't admit it. Their denial fuels continued attacks on a person who doesn't warrant the scrutiny. Clearly political allegiance trumps objectivity or any semblance of justice.
Logically, since the case was prosecuted by a Justice Department controlled by Democrats, it was Obama who ultimately prevailed in this instance.
Let's look at all the charges he was tried for: Wow, if he hadn't obstructed justice after the fact, he would have walked on one misdemeanor. Kernell looks like he had good legal representation. You really couldn't ask for a much better verdict given the evidence. Read more at WBIR.com
Agreed. I'll add that the obstruction charge is one that prosecutors used to not bring in this kind of case. The reason for it is that the Supreme Court recently ruled, correctly IMO, that facts that allow sentencing enhancements, in addition to facts that prove underlying crimes, have to be proved at trial. It used to be that sentencing enhancement related facts were determinable by the sentencing judge. The focus in reporting on the obstruction charge shows that the reporters involved fundamentally failed to understand everything that was going on here.
Looks like they brought it forth in this case though, and successfully. On another note, since you are dispensing legal 'opinion'....I'm curious....what do you, as a supporter of his, think of the merits of the criminal case that the Obama administration may be bringing against John Edwards?
Oh, come on. I'm told someone once "hacked" into a Mods account on TrekBBS because their password question was "What is the name of Kirks ship?" Should that person have been charged and thrown in jail as well? For longer than a murderer? Nope. This was a wacky prank. I'm all for wacky pranks, regardless of political affiliation. If someone ever hits Obama in the face with a pie, I'll complain when they get charged as well.
No one should be subjected to this kind of violation. The Dems and MSM encouraged the sexism and, imo, this criminal act against Palin. Their constant demeaning rhetoric about her contained both implicit and explicit messages that it was acceptable to victimize this woman. I've made no secret of the fact that I am ambivalent, at best, about a Palin presidency. That issue, however, is totally separate in my mind from the issue of the maltreatment she received. She deserves, as does any person, to be defended from the maliciousness hurled at her by the Dems and the media. What they fail to see, apparently, is that in their treatment of Palin, of Hillary, and of democracy, in general - they damaged themselves to a much greater degree than they did their intended target. Karma's coming, and she ain't happy. Some people may want to split (or is it spin?) hairs about the sentencing, but I'm just glad he received some sort of reprimand so that the whole world can see this sort of thing is not going to be tolerated!
Just look at nearly any article that discusses her. Also, the last time I cited examples at your request, you ran away for two years. Or do you not remember how you said Obama had more legislative accomplishments than Hillary, and then when I pointed out you were horribly incorrect, with the appropriate citations, you disappeared. Doesn't exactly inspire any confidence in continued debate.
Yes, I left for two years because of you. You outflanked me by calling my bluff and I was so disheartened that I hid in a cave for two years. I didn't have anything else going on in my life that would have required my full attention. :unconvinced:
Ditto. Still waiting for citations on your falsifications. It's been about two years, think you might have come up with them by now. The sexism and misogyny hurled at Sarah Palin is obvious. Only someone wholly disingenuous would pretend like they need further evidence for it.
In other words, you've got nothing. Gotcha. I'll concede the points you made from two years ago. You win. Now, citations please.
See post above. "The sexism and misogyny hurled at Sarah Palin is obvious. Only someone wholly disingenuous would pretend like they need further evidence for it."
I wish I had your line of reasoning when I was working on my dissertation. Instead of citing sources for any assertion I made, all I should have done was write things like "It's obvious to anyone who isn't disingenuous" and "If you don't know this, it's beyond your grasp". I've wasted two years of my life.
Thanks for that compliment, Professor Sexbot. I know you don't hand out compliments easily, so this is high praise coming from you. And while I have no idea whether you are or aren't a Professor, or have anything to do with sex....I do see how BOT is quite an appropriate name for you.
Kidding and sarcasm aside, I am not outright saying you're wrong about the sexism. I honestly don't know if it's there or not. I'm inclined to believe that it isn't because I don't see it. Maybe it's over my head. I don't know. This is why I am asking you to point it out to me. If it's so obvious, you should have no trouble citing a few examples.
Well, I am not going to take two years of media attacks and juxtapose it against decades of gender theory, in the ten minutes I was supposed to be on here. You can try "Sarah Palin" and "sexism" as a start, and see if some discovery can be made on your own. You'll find many articles that discuss and dissect the matter at length, and you can gauge on your own whether they are to your satisfaction. For instance, MSNBC commentator Brent Budowsky wrote something on this in regards to the Newsweek cover with Palin (just one example). Georgetown University professor Deborah Tannen is another one (she I believe commented on the "women should stay at home and take care of children" angle thrown at Palin, which is incredibly sexist, especially from Democrats who claim to be above such things). It's also been debated at the New Agenda and Feministing, IIRC. So those are just some places to start. If you remain not convinced, feel free to ask further.
I didn't ask for someone else's perspective. I asked for yours. I asked for you to show me examples. I realize that Google is my friend but it's just not an effective debating tactic to make an assertion, and, when challenged to support that assertion reply that one should "look it up". I've had a pretty difficult two years and I'd like to think that I've come out of it very humbled and with a better perspective. I'm a kinder, gentler Professor Sexbot and I'm asking you to put aside whatever grudge you've been nursing against me, grant me the benefit of the doubt and show me where you're right and where I'm wrong. That's all I can do. I await your reply and hope to be enlightened if not challenged.
Meh, just because I can remember and recall certain things with some ease doesn't mean it's some nursed grudge. Anyway, the sources I cited do have examples. Not sure what else it is that you want then. My own personal perspective on these examples? What is there to say -- the examples speak for themselves. And I think my perspective's already been stated pretty much, no? The Newsweek cover is one example. The suggestion that Sarah Palin needs to stay home and take care of her kids (initially espoused by one DC "socialite" Sally Quinn, and then no doubt disseminated ad nauseam to the masses via the apparatus of Ezra Klein's JournoList) is another. Such things would never be mentioned when it comes to men. Of course this comes from people like Sally Quinn who are still all butt hurt at Hillary because Hillary wouldn't come to one of her parties. The same Sally Quinn who should think twice before casting aspersions on others, since it's no secret that she climbed her way up the social ladder one way and one way only -- from mattress to mattress. These are just a few examples...there are many more you can self discover.