SARS II: Respiratory Boogaloo

oh I see...thanks!

Alex Jones agrees!

Didn't realize you were transitioning. Congratulations, girlfriend. In the meantime, even you know that "Democrat" is a noun, not an adjective.

I took my wife to Applebees tonight. It was safer than a grocery store or my workplace. They disinfect the hell out of everything, and diners were spaced out well beyond the six feet guidance. No napkins, condiments, menus, etc. are on the tables - everything is brought out to you by the waiter on an "as needed" basis. I'll bet my paycheck (hell I'm betting my life) that if any contact tracing is done on COVID positive people in the area none of it will be from the Applebees I went to. Same with the Gold's Gym I visit on a nearly daily basis. But that's what I'm comfortable with - those who are not can stay home and wait until they are ready to engage.

Yes Democrat is a noun and not an adjective. Hope you are ready to tell major media outlets they are wrong when they make the same mistake! That might get you a Pulitzer Prize or a cup of coffee.

Restaurants around here are opening up their outside dining areas, which makes a lot of sense. I'm not aware of many (if any) cases of the virus traced to anyone catching it outside.

I like Applebees' french onion soup, but I don't think I'll risk my life for it. But...whatever....

Exactly.

The same as Rightforge. And the same as the world in general.

Would you care to point out some of these mistakes that aren't deliberate use by right-wing media as a pejorative?

Though it seems to me that there are cases where it can be correctly used as an adjective, as a kind of verbal shorthand: "The Republican proposition is such-and-such, but the Democrat counter-proposition is..." In such a sentence, "the Democratic counter-proposition" wouldn't be a very good formulation, and using "Democrat" as an adjective would be shorter than writing out "The proposition of the Republicans... but the counter-proposition of the Democrats..." Sure, verbal shorthand is not always rigorously correct from a grammatical standpoint, but that's kind of the nature of shorthand, isn't it?

Why not? For that matter, why not "the Democrats' counter-proposition"?

yes that is great option weather permitting. I won't choose that if it's windy though - I hate the wind when I'm trying to eat.

"I like Applebees' french onion soup, but I don't think I'll risk my life for it. But...whatever...." - Mike

what part of "safer than a grocery store or my workplace" sounds like I'm risking my life? Trust me here, my former job taught me the value of situational awareness and risk assessment.
Statistically the drive to & from the restaurant was a bigger risk to life & limb than eating far from other customers (the place was not even close to being crowded) in a constantly cleaned environment.
COVID isn't going away anytime soon, so we all just have to use common sense for each situation we face going forward - and we all have to go forward at some point. That point will vary for everybody depending on their location & situation, and of course the direction & pace of the COVID virus itself. Sorry if that sounds too level headed/apolitical but this is my 2 cents on "dining in" and the COVID response in general.

The fact is that everyone time we step out into a place of business we are running a greater than zero chance of being infected. I'm not living in total isolation, either. But I am trying to limit my potential exposure to the absolute minimum I can manage. If you're level of risk tolerance is higher than mine, that's okay, but the fact is that you're going into more places of business than I am and your risk is higher. That doesn't mean you're being reckless, or that I'm being overcautious.

Your situational awareness is going to get you or someone else killed. Virus don't carry around little flags, guns, and ride in humvees.

There might be 100% risk of being infected and you have no way of telling. You may be infected and passing it on to your waiter or busboy. You don't know.

Until GA and other states have adequate testing and tracking in place it's a crapshoot. No, it doesn't require 100% testing but it does require enough to be statistically significant. We have none. My wife who is exposed daily to infected covid 19 patients cannot get a test as a nurse at a major hospital. I've had to take to wearing full body condoms whens she's around.

Poor people don't have that luxury, neither do "essential" workers. $1200 is wholly inadequate to cover basic necessities for even a month, and that's assuming you live in an area where rent isn't $2000 for a small apartment. Hell, even where I live rent is $900 a month on average, and I live in a small town. Remember, no universal healthcare here. You're paying out of pocket for everything, including your insurance which is expensive on its own. Yeah, a select few get to watch TV all day and wait in their homes, but that's not the case for a great many people.

The truth is that we are being repressed, and we have been for a long time. The problem is the people demanding we "reopen" are doing it in the name of those very oppressors.

In my mind, "the Democratic counter-proposition" sound like it's in opposition to an anti-democratic proposition.

"The Democrats' counter-proposition" would work; I didn't say it wouldn't. But it just seems in my mind that that is a case where a noun could validly stand for an adjective.

Another example of the same construction would be: "The Google method for doing that is..." It's not technically correct in terms of grammar, but quite understandable as verbal shorthand.

exactly! Everyone has to manage their risk in their neck of the woods because it's not cut-and-dried. That said I would hate to be living in NYC right about now! They have the worst of both worlds - many deaths despite the restrictions and a tanking economy. They can't catch a break!

I agree that the testing is FUBAR. Your wife and all the people in high risk jobs should be fast-tracked to the head of the testing line. If they are being fast-tracked already and she hasn't been tested, then I would say that the average Georgia resident won't be tested for a long time.

Anyway as I said I have a much higher chance of getting COVID at my workplace (eight hours a day) versus one hour in a squeaky-clean restaurant that knows it will be shut down - and possibly lose their business license - if anyone comes up hot for COVID because of them. I'm a government contractor - if someone comes up hot at my work the contracting company has to pay for the employee's lost wages from quarantine but it won't stop the whole show.

As for situational awareness I didn't go into a dirty crowded place of business. As I dined I noticed that the staff were constantly cleaning and monitoring patron behavior. They have a strong motivation to not fuck up a good thing - their motivation is a factor to consider in assessing my dining risk.

Poor people don't have that luxury, neither do "essential" workers. $1200 is wholly inadequate to cover basic necessities for even a month, and that's assuming you live in an area where rent isn't $2000 for a small apartment. Hell, even where I live rent is $900 a month on average, and I live in a small town. Remember, no universal healthcare here. You're paying out of pocket for everything, including your insurance which is expensive on its own. Yeah, a select few get to watch TV all day and wait in their homes, but that's not the case for a great many people.

The truth is that we are being repressed, and we have been for a long time. The problem is the people demanding we "reopen" are doing it in the name of those very oppressors. - Amaris

True enough! But "doing it in the name of the oppressors" or not, you and everyone else still have to pay your bills! So until we come up with an entirely new economic system the economy that we have better start cranking up. Many of the people saying "hunker down at home" are in a position to do so.

Yeah, but that's a predicative attribute, not an adjective. It's arguably an adjective phrase while not being an adjective word, but if you're going to use adjective as a shorthand for adjective phrase in this context, you might as well not care for the minutiae of grammatical vocabulary altogether!

okay I think we are all overthinking this. Too much free time on our hands?

Clearly you've never been on a Star Trek forum.

I've never heard anyone at a major media outlet transmogrify this noun into an adjective, but feel free to provide examples. (Hint: Wordforge is not a major media outlet.)

In Soviet Russia, window defenestrates you... if you complain about lack of PPE to deal with COVID:

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/05/third-russian-doctor-falls-window-after

Russia obviously doesn't love those on the front line. At least US protesters have just spat in their faces and called them fakes.

It's not about you. I'm sure the restaurant staff don't share your keen sense of covid.

Get takeout next time. They will be much more appreciative. Remember to leave a tip.

Pay people a liveable wage so they can save some money for lean times, like the one they are in now...
Lots of people in the USA are underpaid and need 2 or more jobs just to make ends meet but the big companies are making great profits, though lots of those are now getting lots of money from the GOPs decisions, even though the money should go to people who really need it: the underpaid employees...

I have not, nor have I any intention of doing so.

transmogrify I'm not saying that word sounds made up, but seriously? Well I made it to 58 years old without even needing to use that word, so I'm thinking that I probably won't need to anytime soon.