Shakespeare: Too sexy for Florida schools!

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    Teachers in a Florida county are preparing to use only excerpts of works by William Shakespeare, rather than whole plays, as part of an attempt to conform to hardline rightwing legislation on teaching about sex.

    “There’s some raunchiness in Shakespeare,” Joseph Cool, a reading teacher at Gaither high school in Hillsborough county, told the Tampa Bay Times. “Because that’s what sold tickets during his time.”

    But, the newspaper said: “In staying with excerpts, the schools can teach about Shakespeare while avoiding anything racy or sexual.”

    The legislation at issue is the Parental Rights in Education Act, commonly known as the “don’t say gay” law for its clampdown on teaching about LGBTQ+ and gender issues.

    The act was signed into law in March 2022 by Ron DeSantis, the hard-right Republican governor who is now running for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, and expanded in April this year.

    The law has fueled widely reported culture-war clashes, including parental pushes for book bans in public school libraries and a legal battle between DeSantis and Disney, a major state employer which opposes the law.

    According to the Tampa Bay Times, the Hillsborough county school district has also switched to using excerpts as a way to help students meet state Benchmarks for Excellent Student Thinking, teachers aiming to give pupils a broad range of knowledge based on one whole novel and excerpts from five to seven novels or plays.

    But the Parental Rights in Education Act also says material that is sexual in nature should not be used in classes not concerning sexual health or reproduction.

    Prudishness towards Shakespeare’s discussion of sex or use of sexual slang is not new. As the Royal Shakespeare Company (RSC) notes, “Early editions of Shakespeare’s plays sometimes ignored or censored slang and sexual language.

    “But the First Folio [published in 1623] reveals a text full of innuendo and rudeness.”


    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/08/florida-schools-shakespeare-sexual-materia

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    Though in Florida, I'd be surprised if the first speaker hadn't either.
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    I cannot tell you the last time shakespeare was relevant to my life. It just seems like the only reason his works are used is because every high school lit teacher was forced to read it, so it is a common reference that just keeps on going. It is such a performative knowledge. I feel the same about some simp knowing a line from hamlet as I do about some person who knows a bible quote off their head. Neither of them knows or has read the story, and they memorized a quote so that they can pretend they are smart.

    One good thing I can say about Mel Gibson is he did get me over that whole hamlet hurdle. Then it was onto somethi9ng that really makes you want to kill yourself, Ordinary fucking People.
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    Ordinary People was studied in class?
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    I had to do it twice because I dropped from honors to regular English class mid year due to lazy. Most books I could wade through, but that one just really made me want to clean my room and do chores. It was one of those things where the movie didn't help for me. The only reason I got through it the second half was because I somehow absorbed all the honors kids answers when I was sleeping.

    I always thought I hated reading because of some of the crap they made me read. When I like a story you cannot stop me from reading it. I could even read some of shakespeare. I liked Taming of the Shrew and read it without being assigned. Hamlet and Othello just bored me, and I was way above Romeo and Juliette in my mind because teenage romance was stupid.
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