Should transracial minorities be protected?

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  1. gturner

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    So there are no Jersey girls from Sicily, and your desire to exterminate people is just a set up, even though half your posts express a desire to exterminate people. Have you sought counselling, and have they ever ruled you a danger to yourself and others?
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    I didn't say anything about Jersey girls, but I also doubt you are the foremost authority on all things Jersey girl related as well. Do you know all Jersey girls in Jersey and their heritage? I highly doubt it. Dumb fuck.
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    It pains me that this is the only way my hometown gets into the news, besides it's above-average college basketball team. :lol:
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    So trans species people are deluded but transracial people are not? Such bigotry you spew. :no:
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    This took place in Yakima?
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    Fuck you, dude. :lol:
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    I grew up in Westchester and putrnam NY. Of course we know jersey girls. Summers on the boardwalk, not to mention a few clubs. There was even some huge arcade/indoor sports complexes down there we used to go to. Dude, jersey is NY's fucking cousin. If you wanted to see the giants you were down in Jersey. Plus the stadium hotels did a lot of conventions. That is not to mention the concerts. We went down to jersey for cheap action, and up to lichfield and greenwich to play with the rich kids. Yes, i know those places, I grew up there and spent thirty years of my life around there.
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    You have no idea.
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    The issue with Rachel Dolezal is one of cultural appropriation, as plenty of the people quoted here point out:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/12/rachel-dolezal-faking-bla_n_7571422.html

    To use @Nova as a counterexample, there are plenty of sexism-related issues that women had to face if they grew up as girls at the same time she did. To the best of my knowledge, Nova has never tried to claim that experience. She's faced a lot of other issues, and transgender people deal with a whole different set of discrimination-related problems, but Dolezal tried to outright appropriate other people's problems for her own profit.
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    :rolleyes: Sorry, just have to roll my eyes whenever the term "cultural appropriation" comes up. You know what this is? This is "social justice" rantings being taken to a literal extreme. "Social justice" is all about victimhood, and this person really latched on to the idea that being a minority in some way makes them a special little snowflake. Being white, straight, and cis-gendered was a liability since she wanted to be a special little snowflake, so she decided she was going to pass herself off as another race, or rather, someone of mixed race, so she could be that special little snowflake. This is the kind of shit that happens when there is too much focus on these so-called "identity politics," which focus exclusively on what a person is rather than on their character or any merit they might have earned through their actions/accomplishments. It's stunning just how utterly bigoted "social justice" and many of its purported adherents are. And as low a blow as it might seem, honestly, the obsessions these people hold remind me a lot of how that Nazis were obsessed with racial purity and the like. That shit with how this person told a Hispanic woman that she didn't look Hispanic enough really drives that home.

    Oh, and I got to say, I really feel sorry for this woman's father. How sharper than the serpent's tooth indeed.
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    Though I can agree with your ascertation of this woman's psychological state, I do not really think any of this falls into effecting reality. Some white chick wants to delude herself to think she is black. She also seems to fight for black people to get ahead. If she is doing a good job who the fuck cares? I think it really bothers some white people that she actually wanted to be black. She is not like an Iggy who is pretending to be black while still being a hot little white chicky. No, this one actually has tried to fit her apearence into that of a black person. Yes, she has not faced the discrimination blacks have, but she is trying to exist at their angle and I can get that.

    Really, it does not effect any of us as long as she is doing the best job she can. It is really a big old racist sign when people freak out about this. Anyone who finds her to be bothersome has some racism in them. It is like when people look at me like I am disgusting or dirty for wearing women's clothing and wanting to be a woman. That shows how you think of men and women in relation to each other. You do not think that way when some woman wears men's clothing because that is a step up. The people who think less of me for being feminine and being a girl are sexist. This is a sort of litmus test for anyone out there. If you are bothered by her doing this, you have some racism inside of you. If that troubles you then you should do some soul searching and figure out why it bothers you and see how stupid it is.
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  12. Captain X

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    Wow, apparently you're more concerned with disagreeing with me than in actually understanding what it is that I'm saying. :rolleyes:

    This woman pretending to be black so she can feel like a special little snowflake doesn't bother me in the least. The bigoted "identity politics" she's obsessed with along with all the other "social justice" cultists are what bother me. As for people freaking out over it, yeah, people going on about "cultural appropriation" are totally being racist. That was the point I was making, since you apparently didn't notice
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    Hey, you can make six or seven figures as a social justice warrior. Getting blacks killed for profit is a pretty lucrative job, but that doesn't compare to the power and control. Why wouldn't any white girl jump at the chance? She's got to be ten times better than Al Sharpton.
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    Bullshit. Your opposition to the Social Justice Movement stems from the fact that you favor the social injustice inherent in maintaining the status quo.
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    I...agree?
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    :rofl: That was a real knee-slapper, thanks. :diacanu:

    No, my opposition to the so-called "Social Justice Movement" is all the bigotry inherent with it, and the damage to actual justice that has been caused by it through the erosion of civil liberties, such as the freedom of speech and due process, particularly on university campuses where its adherents have the most influence. The "Social Justice Movement" is nothing more than another brand of fanatical authoritarianism.
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  17. Chardman

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    Ya earned this with that dishonest crap:
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  18. gturner

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    Captain X is correct. Social justice isn't about justice, it's about shutting down debate and going on witch hunts to feed kangaroo courts where the accused has no right an attorney, no right to cross examine witnesses, and often no right to even know what he's charged with. Many of the people put through such a charade are suing universities for tens of millions of dollars.

    Such emotion-based movements often turn ugly. For example, the three pillars of the Nazi party were faith, hope, and charity. They were all convinced that what they were achieving was social justice.
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  20. Diacanu

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    That's why this argument is so tangled up and fucked.
    There are a sizable and loud chunk of authoritarian assholes in the SJW movement.
    But the gturners latch onto that to say "the WHOLE movement is racist and authoritarian".
    Then the Chardmans go to the opposite extreme of "ANYONE who criticizes SJWs wants to roll back progress, and are regressive troglodytes!".
    So with extremist reactionaries pulling on both ends of the rope, no one can criticize anything, and have an adult discussion that will get us out of this mess.
    It's all about polarzied sides, and if you don't pick one, you're destroyed.
    Yeah, that's gonna make the world a better place.
    Look how many times in history its happened.
    Oh, that's right, it was never.
    It was fucking never.
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  21. Diacanu

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    Hey man, you're with us, or against us.
    The greater good is really fucking good.
    An omelette takes breaking eggs.
    Get on board, or get broken.
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    Where the SJW's left the rails is when they started thinking that they had a right not to be offended. That everyone had a right not to be offended, so anything that anyone found offensive must be the result of an act of aggression that must be punished. That got wrapped up in their crazy heirarchy of victim classes, and the result is a mess where people substitute emotions for reason.
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    And gturner steps up to prove Dicky's point.
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    Ian McEwan to US grads: There's nothing virtuous about being offended

    A rather uneventful college commencement season full of the usual platitudes and bromides was shaken up by British novelist Ian McEwan’s refreshingly challenging the zeitgeist of trigger warnings, free-speech zones, and campus censorship at Dickinson College in Pennsylvania this week.

    McEwan did not shy away from addressing the current temper on campus, choosing to focus on the creeping group-think in faculty lounges and discussion sections instead of the all too easy targets of Russian crackdowns on free speech or the “industrial scale” state-sponsored censorship in China. McEwan directly confronted the problem of a country rooted in the tradition of free expression under the First Amendment meekly submitting to what he called “bi-polar thinking” — the eagerness of some to “not side with Charlie Hebdo because it might seem as if we’re endorsing George Bush’s War on Terror.”
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    No. Not ANYONE. I never said, nor even implied that. I addressed that directly to Captain X, and only Captain X, who I am pretty sure actually does want to roll back progress, is regressive, and would prove to possess a great number of troglodyte-specific genes, were a DNA screen performed on his blood. Everyone else who criticisms SJWs is merely a garden variety asshole, and nothing more, just as a great many SJWs are as well.
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  26. Diacanu

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    So they're just all pure?
    And that's not being the mirror image of gturner how?
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    There is no progress. It is in illusion. According to leading campus thinkers since the student revolutions of the 60's, societies are all equal and should be immune to criticism (such as Islam). If all societies are equal, then all theoretical societies are equal, and so it doesn't matter whether your society becomes more 'progressive' or 'regressive', because it's still equal to the original society - and to every other society on Earth. None can be judged.
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    Who? I don't know of anyone who's "all pure". (Especially here.)
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    It is like you said, she resigned. The people who feigned caring that some imposter black person is there caused so much ruckus this woman had to resign so things could go on. What for? It seems the NAACP thought she was doing a great job and supported her. That has to mean she supported their goals and truly believed in their mission. Just to get to that position would have meant she worked hard and did some of the right things as per the organization. Now some white trash bigots are calling her out for not being black enough? The people who are whining about this woman are the same people who want lynchings to be back in fashion. Then you have black people so damned fucked up that they think a white woman who wants to identify with them because she obviously finds value and meaning in their culture is a problem when she promotes black people's accomplishments? Black people better wake up and see this person likes you and admires you. That is not a fucking crime. How often are black people told they should be more white, and how often are white people put down when they act black. They have black people so twisted in this bullshit that they take pride in being the fucking niggers, and they do not want some white chick trying to be one of them.

    Smell the fucking manipulation here people.
  30. Diacanu

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    So what other reason is there to fall in line like a good little soldier?