Shouldn't being against racism include being against anti-white racism?

“Your DNA is an abomination”. Right there in the title. You don’t get rid of DNA by deconstructing its culture. You get rid of it by killing it. I read this as a piece by someone so despondent over systemic oppression they’ve given up on racial deconstruction within their lifetime (which I absolutely support, btw) as a peaceful solution. And they’re sad they’ve given up, but they have anyway. They’ve internalized race as a reality even if they know it’s not one intellectually. And now they hate white people. Not just the concept, the people.

Also, I revise what I said, he only wants to kill white people in Texas. Should have read more carefully.

Brown boogeymen? No. One fucked up despondent student in Texas? Yep.

Thanks for posting that.

This guy is a crazy person.

Don’t know why you’re trying to defend it.

Wow.

It would be nice to read the actual article instead of reading it through the lens of someone who was clearly offended by it, but yeah, I disagree with his conclusions and frankly, I don't see how any newspaper that takes itself seriously would ever print something like that. The saddest thing is that the sensitive extremist White Genocide Nazi crowd will cite crap like this as a justification of their positions and dig in.

For the record, the notion that this society works for the benefit of white people and secondarily for minorities is real. That's not to say that there aren't a lot of well meaning whites, heck, I think most of them are, but just because they don't experience racism the way minorities do, they often don't see and assume it's not a real problem.

You can believe there is still racism in American society yet NOT BELIEVE it is the primary cause of the difficulties faced by minorities in this country.

It's like that black man who yelled at me

"The only reason you hate my son is because he's black".

I replied.

"No! No! No! That is not true."
"That's only one of the reasons..."

Link to the original is in Post #83, and also provided for you here as well, for your convenience, my good sir.

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/DNA-1122x1496.jpg

In fairness, it was a campus newspaper so they probably print stupid shit all the time (because students).

Also, they've since cut ties with the kid who wrote the editorial.

There's also this:

Oh! That certainly provides some context, but it does not excuse White DNA is an abomination, IMHO. Advocating for equal rights is frustrating at times, but the key word there is EQUAL. Martinez went way overboard and probably made things worse for minorities there.

Because Packard is a crazy person. Some of you are finally starting to realize it. I thought maybe nobody else would ever catch on.

They are siding with a guy calling for genocide.

Liar. He called for white DNA to be eliminated. That is not a social construct, you liar.

I think y'all are being way too literal.

Look, the power dynamic does matter.

I look at "black racists", like the guy who knows Superman is bulletproof, shoots him anyway, then pathetically throws the empty gun at him.

Yeah, he's shooting at Superman, and that's technically threatening...but it's Superman.

This thread may as well be asking "what about female on male rape?".
Did she leave her strap-on at home? Well, good luck, lady.

Are you arguing that we shouldn't discuss female rapists when they strike because power dynamics? Rape is rape, dude,and female rapists use power dynamics just the same as the male ones, typically just in a different form.

We do discuss it.
A teacher bangs her student, and the knucklehead brigade goes "was she shot? "
Scintillating discussion.
Truly.

There are times when I want to give the white racists the real racism that is out there.

Unless it's aimed at Islamic animals, then we should glass any country that refuses to take in Muslim refugees.

Kill yourself before you reproduce into the gene pool.

You're both right. We don't take child rape of young boys seriously enough.

I mean, you can pull up the shit that was said about Mary Kay Letoureau's victim/now husband twenty years ago. No way on God's green earth did that boy look anything in the ballpark of "older than his age."

But there's many other ways women can rape men. Blowjobs, anyone?

Interesting answer: white ppl and black ppl aren’t equal.

I assume you’re implying whites should be held to a higher standard than blacks?

I disagree with the double standard. What’s true for humans is true for humans.

First of all, the piece says explicitly over and over that what it advocates is deconstructing culture. You might personally believe that this won't create the desired outcome as stated, but that does not change what this piece says.

Secondly, "abomination" is a term from bigoted discourse. It is not considered a real thing from the point of view of an egalitarian cultural deconstruction. If the title was "White DNA is a unicorn", you wouldn't argue that that means that the author believes that white DNA as well as unicorns exist.

Thirdly, and this is probably the most important point:

No, you absolutely do not. There is no "white DNA". It is a racist figment of the imagination. If all people considered 'white' would die tonight, the world would contain exactly as much white DNA tomorrow as it does today. Namely, none.

When you read a piece that straight out tells you, verbatim, and several times, that what we need is cultural deconstruction, as having given up on cultural deconstruction, the only intellectually honest next step has to be starting to look for where your interpretation went wrong.

Yes. You seem to understand this part. What you don't seem to understand is that because they know intellectually that race isn't real, they also know intellectually that physically killing people of a given race is impossible.

The very definition of false equality. It suddenly declares equality when one side is ahead.

"Yes, we stole this from you, but why should we give it back? That would be a disadvantage to us and an advantage for you, but we are all humans and should not be treated differently."

"Yes, we are in power and you are not, but why should we share power? That would mean taking away power from one group and giving it to the other, but we are all humans, and none of us should have to give up power for the other."

"Yes, you are much more likely to be treated unfairly by the police, or even to be wrongfully shot by the police, than me. But we shouldn't change police policies in any way that takes special account of that reality, because that would draw attention to the difference, and differences between human beings are bad."

But all of the above are just symptoms. The real criterion for the falsity of false equivalence is that you are asking for equivalence among two groups, where neither group exists in physical reality.

Well, at least this thread has (once again) exposed that leftforge is racist as fuck and there is no end to the gymnastics they will attempt to justify their racism. Leftforge wins the shitbird award... Again.

Wow, BBC had a help wanted ad which basically said whites need not apply. I am sure the racist shitbirds of leftforge will be along shortly to tell us why this is ok.

It starts with "Your DNA is an abomination" and ends with "I hate you because you shouldn't exist." You can't just ignore them because it doesn't fit your preconceived notion that this is some sort of elevated discourse on egalitarian cultural deconstruction, even if, as I have said repeatedly, it contains elements of it.

Of course not, "unicorn" has a thoroughly different connotation than "abomination". Likewise if the author had ended the piece with "I hate whiteness, because it shouldn't exist," or "I hate fairy tales because they teach lies." But he didn't.

No shit, Sherlock, the author is a bigot! Doesn't necessarily want to be, but is, and recognizes that.

It's all the people he sees society seeing as white, and that (these days, less so until the 70s) is very much about the expression of genes for melanin production.

When I read a piece that contains facial contradictions, I look for a mental state that would lead to those contradictions arising in a subjectively consistent manner. You just pretend the statements you don't like either don't exist or are something else entirely, or stick your fingers in your ears and shout "he doesn't mean it!"; I assume it's to save the credibility of the rest of the piece. Don't bother. Of course the rest of it is basically right. That doesn't change the fact that this guy is a bigot and wants white people dead. The two are not mutually exclusive. If I remember my 60's history correctly, I'm pretty sure that was exactly Malcolm X's position at one point.

Doesn't change that that's what he wants.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-36443113

Didn't ignore them; started my reading with them, started my explanation with them, made them the core of what I said about the piece.

It's interesting how you changed the order of my sentences there to allow yourself to avoid my point. Let me repeat what I said again in sequence:

Now back to what still seems to be the most important point.

Your claim about the biological basis of racism here is not just false, but it is specifically what this author tells us he considers to be false. Even if you believe it to be true (and I am frankly shocked that you do), to read this idea which he rejects into his piece is to introduce a deliberate misreading.