So, which one of you contacted Dayton's principal?

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  1. NotDayton Kitchens

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    Maybe I'm mistaken.

    But going into the stands to confront a parent is not a falling out. The parent was very complimentary of my choking style.

    At least he was some time after the complaint he made to the police officer and I confronted him about that too. I am told that I am physically intimidating but I choose to believe that he did not lie.
     
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  2. Dayton Kitchens

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    It wasn't a parent. It was the husband of the Elementary school principal.

    He was subsequently banned from the games.
     
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    As a matter of fact can you state how many times your contract has not been renewed?
     
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    In total. Twice.
     
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    Do you believe neither was your fault, was political in some way, or that it should not reflect upon your suitability? I am genuinely interested 8n how you view these two events.
     
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    Are you kidding? Every time Kentucky doesn't win the NCAA basketball championship, idiots call all the sports radio shows and demand that UK drop the coach's contract, or at least heavily question whether it should be renewed. Every time. Every coach.
     
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    So....you went behind the bleachers to choke it with a parent?

    Also, #BestOfDayton
     
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  8. Dayton Kitchens

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    I do not believe either was my fault.

    The first was prefaced by the superintendent saying flat out at my reentry interview that "We don't want you back here and we'll be looking for any chance to get rid of you". He said that to my face. And this was a very mild mannered 75 year old man. I remember my former coach (and then athletic director) stirring in his chair uncomfortably and acting like he didn't want to be there.

    In the other, several reasons were officially given but I've been told none of them were the actual reasons. One long term teacher who was well connected said that the administration thought that I undermined the head football coach given my age (10 years older than the head coach) and my longer relationship with the players. This despite the head coach telling everyone that I had been nothing but supportive of him from the beginning.

    Might be something to that given I was replaced by a 25 year old coach just out of college. I had another theory that I can't go into here.
     
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    Untreated autism?
     
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    You've been NotDaytoned.
     
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    Are you really that dense that you can't connect dots?

    Yes, in scenario 1 they told you they will be looking for any chance to get rid of you. Did you not consider why they decided to go down this path? Here are some suggestions:

    - you are a poor teacher
    - you don't take criticism and can't/wont do what you are asked
    - you are a pain in the arse and generally cause trouble for the school by way of your behaviour and attitude
    - you have less common sense than the pupils you are meant to teach
    - you are morally corrupt
    - you dont like being a teacher and cant wait for the school year to be over which translates to low enthusiasm for your career, something which is not good for the pupils
    - leading back to you being a poor teacher


    Maybe i am completly wrong, perhaps the school had budget issues and was told someone had to go so they would take any chance to get rid of you.
     
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    You're completely wrong. Because in scenario 1, when I was reduction in forced the SAME PEOPLE acted as though losing me was the worst possible thing. They even spent considerable money helping me find another position. Something they were not obligated to do.

    A year later I'm talking to the AD (guy mentioned above) and he says the high school principal (one of the three in the afore mentioned meeting with me a year later) said to him that has long as he was principal there was no way I would get my job back.

    I have no explanation as to the change of heart he had while I was gone.
     
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    ^ so the principal recognises you are a waste of space and turfs you out and says you wont be back.

    The others feel pity and try and help you get a job. You live in the bible belt so makes sense they might feel bad. Principal got you spot on though
     
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    The same principal who said my subject knowledge was college level? The same one who used to stand outside my class to listen to my lectures?

    And he had no role in forcing me out. It was reduction in force. I and another coach were let go as the last two hired. My wife was eliminated from her job at the school on the same day. Though two weeks into the next school year they hired her back at the same job which she had the next three years.
     
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    OMGS! :rotfl:
     
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    :blink: :facepalm: :wtf: :dayton: :bang: :jayzus:

    You really don't see why you continue to struggle?

    You remind me of this one person I worked with who hates nearly everyone on the sales team, has burned most of the deals I've seen her work with with her attitude, does the minimum amount of work to avoid getting fired and who I highly suspect was poaching customers that others on the team was working with before I worked there and wonders why no one will split deals or turn over their customers to her.

    :blink:

    That, or perhaps the idiot seaman I once knew who still was surprised to get kicked out the third time she was sent to Captain's Mast for not even completing basic qualifications that should've been done after 90 days on board, let alone nearly two YEARS on board.
     
  17. Dayton Kitchens

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    ^ You don't think it is possible to do everything right and still fail?
     
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    The important thing is where to go from here. I would suggest looking further afield in other school districts even if it would mean a longer commute. That is if, as it seems, you want to remain a teacher.

    I would try very hard to learn from these events so you can avoid repeating mistakes. That is the ultimate life lesson, learn from your mistakes so you can make all new ones. ;)
     
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    Do you have any hobbies or old skills which you might be able to turn into a business? Something where you could be your own boss? Even if you do ultimately stay in teaching a part time business could help both financially and as personal growth experience. If you are not adverse to hard work and own a truck perhaps a hauling or demolishing business? Hauling away old junk for people or something.
     
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    What Dinner said two posts ago.


    There comes a point where one really needs to shit or get off the por. Sometimes, someone is a bad fit for a job and will never work out. Those people can put ego and pride aside to realize this and walk away to success in something else.

    As little as you want to be away from your father, it's obvious to us that you've burned a lot of bridges within an hour radius of where you've grown up. You may want to look further out as Dinner said or move further away.
     
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    Much of what you think is right is only right to you.
     
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    That concept doesn't apply to you.
     
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    Ugh. As i said last year to Dayton.

    Hmmm....
     
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    If your employer has said they don't like you or your work then it is best to move on or at least try to transfer some where else.
     
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    Dayton, your degrees would help you get a government job. Look on USAJOBS.com. You will likely make much more money, be able to keep your pension, and it is very hard to fire people after their probationary period. It might be just what you are looking for so give it a serious look.
     
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    He doesn't enjoy teaching. From reading the blue room thread, that much is evident.
     
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    If you don't want to move, could you start a small business on THE INTERNET?
     
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    Well, I don't live close to my father now. In fact I live further away from him now than I ever did. I have not lived within an hour radius of where I grew up since the year before I became a full time teacher.
     
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    He ought to try do write an actual blog that he could monetize. It would take some time before it started paying, but, if he eased up on the personal "blue room" type of stuff and posted a bunch of things related to his political leanings, teaching methods and Sci Fi, I bet he'd attract a lot of attention eventually.

    "In The Kitchen With Dayton".
     
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    That sounds interesting. Can you provide me more details about how such a thing might work?