Solo: A Star Wars Story

Sometimes it’s better to not know the whole backstory and history.

I think Solo is one of those cases.

This movie really just regurgitates stuff we already knew or guessed about Han.

The character had a bit of mystery to him but that’s gone now.

Hopefully they will never do a Yoda backstory.

That would be awful. (Well, maybe. I guess any movie could be good, but some ideas are better than others...)

I'm against a Boba Fett movie for similar reasons. AotC did a lot to dissipate the mystery--and therefore the coolness--of the character. Lucasfilm doesn't need to go any further down that road.

Bought the BluRay/Digital copy today, was going to watch it on Vudu. But when I turned the TV on, one of the "Suggested for You" items was Doug Demuro and his newest review. I'm watching Doug now.

I watched Solo on the flight back from Japan last week. I think it's decent. It's not great, and I guess that means it's a failure as a Star Wars movie.

finally watched this the other night, not gonna read the whole 13 page thread bedcause I'd probably post 30 replies in a row but...it's was fun, nothing spectacular either way - the biggest hurdle for me was seeing a younger Harrison Ford in this particular actor, which I never completely succeeded at but...we get old, whatchagonna do?

Unless you wanted to actually cast Ford and do the Marvel de-aging software but it's awfully actiony for a guy that old to be doing)

I picked up Solo as a birthday present for myself today.

Haven't watched it yet.

Honestly, the only "backstory" movie I'd be interested in seeing at this point would be something focusing on what Obi-Wan did between the events of Episode III and Episode IV.

Well, it’s not like fandom has been begging for this since Disney acquired Star Wars, except they have.

Assuming it wasn't:

Kenobi, A STar Wars Story, written by FF.

Exterior: A ship enters the atmosphere of Tatooine. It’s Vader/ Maul/ Palpatine/ Krenick/ Ttarkin/Thrawn/ Boba Fett/ Some other villain I’m not thinking of.

Interior: Kenobi meditating and talking with Yoda/ Qui Gon senses this person and runs outside to check on the situation

Interior: Luke is late for dinners s the suns are setting, he goes missing at a young age and is kidnapped by said person.

Interior: Kenobi witnesses this event, but is not able to prevent it, Kenobi places a tracking device on the ship, grabs his things (his lightsaber included) and hires a ship (helmed by a young Chewbacca, therefore establishing there knowledge of each other hinted in ANH) rest of the movie goes from there. Young Skywalker is too young to remember it, but knows “old Ben”, R2 plays dumb, Bail is involved, Ends with Owen forbidding Kenobi interacting with Luke,so on and so forth. There’s your movie.

Great idea FF, wanna create a cinematic universe like Marvel and make the fans happy? Why not have the crew of the Ghost involved as well? You could also involve Asoka too, everyone wants to see a live action version of her.

FF: that would be stupid because that would involve Dave Filono.

FF:Yeah, but everyone wants Dave Filoni involved,it’s better than Kathleen Kennedy.

FF: Yeah, but that would make too much sense.

FF: Duh,we can’t have StarWars make sense.

Executives: at Disney: rabble, rable, rabble!

Got the blu-ray yesterday finally.
Like it even better on second viewing.
Gotta watch it more to catch more Easter eggs.
John Kasdan is an Expanded Universe geek, and he shoved a lot in there.

Watched it on VUDU. It was a lot better than the box office would lead you to believe. It was a pretty good heist movie in the Star Wars Universe, but everytime I reminded myself that this guy is supposed to be Han Solo.... really thought about it, it jarred me right out of the fiction. It was like watching a cover band play Prince's hits and they're really good... but then they start imitating Prince and sliding on the floor and wearing ruffled shirts and shit.... It doesn't take away from the fact that he's really good, but at the same time I'm like "come on dude.. .You're not Prince."

Best Star Wars movie since Rogue One, IMHO.

Yeah, it's a real "She's not Ann Margret" moment (Mad Men).

Meh, I look at it like the change of Clarice Starling from Jodie Foster to Julienne Moore in the Hannibal series.
Julienne Moore's Starling was a decade older, and more jaded and cynical, so the re-casting actually helped reflect the change.
IMHO.

Same thing for Han.
He's as young and un-seasoned as Luke is in ANH, so I think the re-casting actually helps.

Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite films of all time, and I had no problem accepting Julianne Moore in the role. Yes, I would've preferred Foster for continuity's sake, but Moore filled the role more than adequately.

I find Ehrenreich's portrayal and the character's storyline to be completely satisfactory at depicting young Han Solo. While he has moments that echo Harrison Ford and are reminiscent of him, Ehrenreich never seems to be doing a straight-up Harrison Ford impression, and I think that's a good choice. It'd be like Chris Pine doing a Shatner impression; it would ultimately be obtrusive and self-defeating.

Don't think we'll get one, but if Lucasfilm were to make a Solo follow-on with Ehrenreich, I'd be enthusiastic about seeing it.

I'd've preferred a Lando and L3 prequel that catches up to Solo.

I could get behind a Lando film, either a prequel or sequel to Solo.

Of course, if it's a prequel we'd get a checklist of events in Lando's life...

• How he met L3
• How he got the Millennium Falcon
• Where he learned to play Sabaac
• How he won that moon
• Where he discovered his passion for capes

And so forth...

Either way, the title has to be The Calrissian Chronicles.

The bonus materials say L3 was actually an R2, but she evolved herself with upgrades into a humanoid.
They didn't say whether this metamorphosis happened before, during, or after meeting Lando.

I think they could go forward. I guess it's a prequel either way (either a Solo prequel or an Empire prequel), and, though I enjoyed L3, I think I'd rather see something new.

Here's an idea: make the Boba Fett movie, but it's really a buddies-on-the-run movie with Han and Lando, with Fett the omnipresent threat in the background chasing them.

oooh

If you had more time between the movies yeah, but recasting Han Solo barely two years after a film which heavily relied on peoples nostalgia for Harrison Ford in the role was stupid.

Ehhh....but oldSpock and nuSpock shared the goddamned screen together in the same goddamned movie.
Y'know?

Difference there is that the appearance of oldSpock was above what people expected.

JJTrek was effectively a reboot, and the Nimoy appearance was effectively a passing of the torch moment, a nod to fans of what had come before.

Up to now Star Wars has explicitly gone to pains to try and keep everything together.

Ehhh...sounds like fans trying to set up a bunch of arbitrary rules to make their franchise holier than thou.

As I said in the other Star Wars thread, they maybe should have waited a few years until the technology was such that they could CG an actor’s appearance to look more like Ford, or just for Ford's take to fade from memory. For me you just can’t get around the fact that it’s not Ford. Han Solo is just too iconic and as you say it was only a two and a half year gap since Ford last played him. It’s like the inevitable recasting of Indiana Jones or the recasting of the original Trek crew. When a character has essentially been co-created by an actor and has gone on to be iconic part of what makes the character iconic is the actor’s traits. It’s different than when it’s a comic book character or literary character because a Batman or a James Bond is an interpretation of the character as defined on the page, whereas Han Solo or Captain Kirk were co-created by the actors themselves by virtue of being involved in their creation from the start. So if you’re playing Captain Kirk you aren’t just interpreting Roddenberry’s character pitch, but also Shatner’s input/contribution. However good and popular Chris Pine is, he’ll never be the definitive Captain Kirk. Same for Han Solo, who has a whole lot less character development to draw on than Kirk, and so draws even more on Ford’s charisma and mannerisms than Kirk does Shatner’s. I think people just weren’t that interested in seeing the character without Ford because once you take Ford out there isn’t much to Han Solo at all.

On top of that Solo is also a greatest hits fest to me. Meeting Chewie, winning the Falcon, the Kessel Run, Chewie ripping arms off. All things that could have been left to the imagination. It reminded me of how I felt about seeing the Jedi and the Clone Wars in the prequels. Mysterious knights and events left to the imagination now replaced with something of debatable quality. Solo just didn’t really offer me anything to get my teeth into. It is by far the weakest Disney Wars entry.

Which, for me, helps me to rationalise Quinto Spock as actually another character (like Mirror Spock). I can just about handle that idea, whereas I am super reluctant to see a recast Nimoy Spock in Discovery.

Saw it last night on BD. Well, I had fun .
My wife gave it an "it's okay." She's gotten sick of CGI action scenes, being more a fan of character-driven stories.

I grew up with Shat's Kirk, and I think Pine did an outstanding job.

Like James Bond, I think the character has transcended any one actor.