Sotomayor: The Affirmitive Action Justice

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That's a bit chilling. Cozying up to La Raza is one of the main things that cost Bustamante the governorship of California.

 

If the La Raza connection is true, that ALONE ought to sink her.

 

I tend to doubt stories like these, and that's part of why I disagree with most forms of affirmative action. Because if this is true, then it doesn't say that Sotomayor is stupid. If it's true, it simply shows that affirmative action works; it shows that a person with the intelligence to finish in second place in her class in Princeton, and to edit the Yale Law Review, can be held down by the disadvantages of her upbringing, and that dismissing her SAT scores makes sense. If you wanted to show that she's stupid, you'd have to show they ignored the quality of her work at Princeton when they had her finish as #2, or that they made her an editor despite her incompetence for that task.

 

....DAMN.

Affirmative action is a good thing if it's to take kids who clearly demonstrate a knowledge or drive to do the extra work to play a tad bit of catch-up ball (By that, I mean a Valedictorian at an inner-city school where he took Trig because AP Calc wasn't offered, but he can test into the class for college).

I don't know if her inability to read stems from a language barrier or not, but either way, Yale is not the place to learn to read "See Spot Run." Or, I'm sorry, "the Cat in the Hat."

 

I'm not sure it matters much that she couldn't read when she went to college. I mean, she can read now right? Why hold that specific fact against her?

 

Either way, these things happened over 3 decades ago. The rest of the story is that this woman graduated Suma cum laudie and has had a distinguished carreer as a prosecutor and judge.

The fact that this is the sort of "evidence" cited against her nomination shows how weak the opposition is. Seriously now... She was appointed to the appelette courts by Bush 41. Back then, she was OK for conservatives... now that a democrat nominates her for a higher court, she's a racist idiot.

 

Conjuring memories of Robert Byrd {L-D], former KKK member & a prominent Liberal Democrat.Sodamajor & Birdman deserve each other.

 

Your link is from Canada.

 

The Great White Northies should mind their own f*cking business.

 

Distinguished by the fact that she's been shot down so often on appeal to SCOTUS? You're not scoring points here.

 

Whether or not she later showed promise, the only reason she got where she did is because of racist policies. True? Sounds a lot to me like you're saying racism is OK if the end result is to your liking.

 

No, not true according to the bolded bits above. According to that story, one of the smartest persons of her generation was unable to read when first entering college, and affirmative action policies correctly identified the problem as a disadvantage connected to unfair treatment of her race, and successfully corrected for that racism. In short, she would be in exactly the same place without racist policies, because without them she would have had great SAT scores.

As I said, I dislike affirmative action and doubt such stories, and I doubt this story for the same reason. But if it's true, it's an argument for affirmative action, not an argument against Sotomayor.

 

The joke is that all the other races are breeding us out of the country. Soon, the phrase, Women and minorities will refer to us.

 

Yep. Reminds me of a conversation I overheard when living in GA. Some parents were bitching about how their kids couldn't get into UGA with scores and grades that a few years earlier would have made them a shoe-in.

"B/c of HOPE, it doesn't mater who you are it's all about the grades." They of course being rich white alumni, who's children DESERVED to go to Athens! I had to turn away before I busted out laughing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_scholarship

 

How the fuck could you ever prove the assertion that someone makes it to college unable to read due to unfair treatment of her race? It's almost like the assertion is raised just to brand anyone who questions it a "racist."

 

Her whole story reveals affirmative action for what it is: elevating the undeserving and ill-prepared.

 

Bad journalism alert:

It says that five of six were overturned, but it listed six as having been overturned.

Which is right? IMHO based solely on the list, the last one was a good call.

 

I know! Stupid Canadians!

 

Prior to HOPE and other giveaways, people were expected to pay for the services they received or, at least, show such significant promise that someone would offer a scholarship.

Anyway, HOPE is not entirely a giveaway to the poor. There are minimum grade standards and residency requirements. It's assumed that you'll be able to make the most of the opportunity AND that you or your family has paid into the tax system that supports Georgia's colleges.

Affirmative action throws that out the window. It gives the relatively limited number of opportunities to people who've neither earned or paid for the service or proven that they have the talent or potential to be worthy of the expensive gift. Sure, Sotomayor worked out. But there are undoubtedly many, many more who didn't.

 

How horrible! Now economics isn't a determinate for who gets into college, grades and scores and extracurricular activities etc. are!

Yes, a 3.0 overall in H.S. (with a 3.0 in English and Math), one year residency, and
you have to maintain a 3.0 throughout college. (Don't forget I went to H.S. in Rome, GA)

And HOPE is completely paid for by the Lotto.

Affermative action can only be one of many different factors when it comes to college acceptance.

And I actually agree with it as our current system works. When Blacks were banned from UGA does it not give Whites a leg up when you allow being the child of alumni to be a factor? Or when extracurricular activities are a factor, something low income students don't the access the higher do?

 

Princeton and Yale were in no way forced or coerced into accepting her. And she was valedictorian of her high school class so it's not as if she was unqualified for the Ivy League. I'm sure both of those colleges were happy to have her considering their long histories of catering to the rich.

 

Her crap vocabulary and writing skills would disagree with that statement. She should've gone to a community college to brush up on the basics instead of getting a golden ticket from the affirmative action fairy.

 

Not directly.




What do you think the employees' paychecks are for?

 

I assumed it was the fourth in the list that wasn't overturned, because she dissented on that decision. That would logically be the one in which the court "disagreed with her reasoning" by upholding the decision on which she dissented.

I'm too lazy to bother looking it all up.

But you're right, it is poor journalism, because it is not clear writing.

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With stories such as the one told in the opening article, if they are numerous. You can't ever prove a hypothetical for an individual case, of course, just as you can't show that one specific individual would not have died from a heart attack if they had done cardio. But you can show a general trend if (!) minorities with low SAT scores do proportionally better than majorities with the same low scores, just as you can if people who keep themselves in good shape experience certain kinds of death in lesser numbers.

 

Preaching to the choir. My daughter was the only white in her class once in summer school.....it happens....get over it and learn what you have to learn, Junior!