Sri Lanka hotel bombings! Almost 200 dead so far

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by oldfella1962, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Lanzman

    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    Well, this thread went about like I expected. Glad the deaths of so many people provide grist for your derp mills.
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    I’m glad the only thing you’re in charge of is Jack and shit and Jack left town.
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    That’s true. Like how most people are against rape, slavery and genocide unlike your feeble god. We improved, he didn’t. That’s the problem with setting morals in stone, it’s permits past evils and dismisses them.
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  4. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Fresh Meat

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    Lots of hatred coming from those left behind. What a shocker.
  5. Dayton Kitchens

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    God never endorses or supports rape or slavery. Genocide you might argue that but you have to understand the context of the times.
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    The Bible endorses slavery as long as you don’t beat your slave to death. Rape victims are also forced to marry their rapists. I’ve read the Bible, you clearly haven’t.
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    Wrong
  8. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    And this is morality?
  9. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    I'll make it simpler for you.

    Christianity causes lots of evil.

    America not based on Christianity.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

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    @BizarroEnt is repeating a common lie meant to mislead people about God. I've explained what is meant by the various portions of the Bible that people have brough up before. Such as women who were captured by the Israelites in the aftermath of a battle. The Israelites were often ordered to take them as wives. Given that they were captive and the Israelites were ordered to take them (presumably sexually as their wives) people have long claimed that was an order by God for the Israelites to rape the captured women.

    As I've explained this is actually an order to take the women from a defeated peoples into their families in order to protect them.
  11. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Dude, woods and trees.
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  12. Dayton Kitchens

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    My point is that without knowing the historical context and the regional practices at the time those things occurred it is ridiculous to label something as "rape" or "slavery". Kind of like people used to claim the story of Onan in the Old Testament was about masturbation. To the point that IIRC "Onanism" is a synonym for masturbation.

    Technically, the story of Onan and him being struck dead by God is a story about rape (Onan having sex with his former sister in law under false pretenses).
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    So your case for the absolute morality of Christianity is that after slaughtering the men the Israelites would take the grieving women as wives against their will?

    Hence my point, humans have the capacity to move beyond religious models of morality. We learn to be better.
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  14. Dayton Kitchens

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    No. The Israelites took the grieving women as their wives in order to protect them and provide for them.
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    So they killed lots of people then took the women in against their will. "Protect and provide" doesn't really fix that. They took the relatives of their victims and gave them no choice in the matter.

    That was seen as a good thing at the time by their absolute religious morality.

    It's seen as abhorrent now by any decent human being because we've moved on.
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    So the Bible is lying?
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    Kirk Cameron?
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  21. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Because I have a missionary sister moving around the Middle East and I'm somewhat scared shitless of the fact she was brainwashed by what I see as a cult into putting her life in danger.

    It has fuck all to do with left or right, just despising the fact people die for the sake of believing in lies.
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  22. Soma

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    Unless you're God, you have no idea what better is. :)
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    How convenient that he doesn’t just tell us. That way people can claim whatever they want and say God approves.
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  24. spot261

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    "God" has never had anything to do with religious policy making and "better" is a human concept.

    The church has created conditions of barbarism whenever it's wielded true political power.
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  25. Soma

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    The fact that those lifeforms with mirror neurons -- the biological basis for the phenomenon we call empathy -- survived in no way proves the existence of a morality independent of human beings.

    You are basically claiming morality exists because you feel it does. That sort of thinking is exactly the same as those that say Christianity is the right religion because one feels like it is.
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    Now is not then.
  27. Dayton Kitchens

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    So you are against humans having free will?
  28. Soma

    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    How do you know God doesn't make known to certain people what is best for mankind? After all, you seem to have a clear cut idea of what is best... as if you were God. :)
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  29. oldfella1962

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    https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/rape.html

    https://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/11_kinds_of_bible_verses_christians_love_to_ignore_partner/

    Genocide.......context of the times......:unsure: words fail me. :no:
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    I’m not sure if free will even exists. If it does, then God is either not all-knowing and/or all-powerful. If we have free will, God cannot know the future. If he does know, then our choices are set in stone. So some people are born and doomed to Hell from birth, nothing can change it and God does nothing to change it. Either because he lacks the ability or refuses to.