Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

So, Unification Part III is coming up. I bet that's when they go to Vulcan and see that Vulcans and Romulans have in fact, re-unified.

Are you fucking with me!?!?
*Races to Memory Alpha*
Nope, you aren't!

Nope, it means Denise is coming back as Sela.

Hopefully she'll have expanded her vocal range from the "bored parent explaining things VERY slowly to a child" she uses for her lines in Star Trek: Online.

Season 4 has started production.

https://trekmovie.com/2020/11/02/production-on-star-trek-discovery-season-4-has-begun/

Fake news, it's a failure like everything Kurtzman touches. It and he are going to be canceled any second now. /sarcasm

If S3 so far is any indication:

LET'S GO!

I read on another site that Discovery is, in essence, YA Trek.

Truth.

Can't be...Burnham isn't torn between two hot young guys.

And Books has to only taken his shirt off once and not every other scene.

Just a few criticisms I've seen so far; both Discovery and the time suit had an auto pilot, Book's ship was said to be so huge when DSC was being pulled out of the ice, yet it fit into DSC shuttle bay, speaking of shuttles, where are all of the thousands of shuttles we saw at last season finale?, Mikey Spock was waiting for a year,but her hair length indicates a longer period of time, the crew of DSC had only been separated from Mikey Spock for a day or so, yet act as if it has been so long, a year away from friends and family is really not that long of time to be so overly emotional, every episode the crew is overly emotional and the only one who isn't is Suru, they literally used a picture of our moon and inverted it in one scene where Mikey is at the exchange or whatever that place they showed in the third episode, they ripped off Mass Effect again, they ripped off Avatar, there's no way Book would see the ship spinning when they use the spore drive/ internal continuity error, Detmer clearly has some sort of problem and nobody is doing or saying anything about it, Culber is making out with Staments while there's a guy with half a face in sick bay/there should be a little more urgency going on in sick bay, what's the deal with the dialithium?, did all of it blow up and what about the planets with dilithium on them? also, something like that would have to supernatural like Q would have to do it or something, how is it Humans can take on a Trill slug? Last, but not least, how is it that Earth lost contact with Titan? Did subspace comms go down? We had communication Cassini in our own time using radio waves and they still have warp capable ships and Titan is in our own solar system.

But what do I know, I'm told that this show has great writing and is a great science fiction show and probably the best Star Trek show ever.

Now bring on the neg reps and we see what twists and turns people take to defend this show.

She didn't grow it.

Doomcock "joke".

A lot of people use that term. So what?

That’s possible, but it sure looked like SMG’s real hair in one scene.

Those are some asinine criticisms. Most of them require like a moments thought to address.

"What's the deal with dilithium" isn't even a criticism. It's a plot point. So is "Detmer has a problem."

And yeah, humans can take on a trill symbiont. Riker was able to host one for a brief period of time, and trill science has had centuries to evolve since then.

Discovery didn't stop and let all those shuttles and drones come onboard before heading for the wormhole, they went through as quickly as they could. That's why Spock was left behind.

yeah, every single one of those has at least a clear presumption if not already flat out answered with canonical sources available.

Like, feeling the spin rather than watching it (or presuming that someone might have explained the basic process)... geez, it was established there was a physical sensation from day one on board.

It's more interesting and entertaining to constantly shoot down your twists and turns to criticize. Gotta be batting around .950...

The autopilot seems to be the biggest problem. That and losing communication with Titan.

So all of them suck at humor too.

Well, they killed Airiam and then the actress who played her (well, the first one who played her) came back as Lt. Nilsson.

So who knows?

FTFY.

A good braid job is supposed to look like that.

I doubt the 23rd century autopilot would be able to perfectly account for the natural fluctuations and distortions within the wormhole. Since no one on the ship is an expert in artificial wormholes, they're probably lucky they ended up in the right time period intact.

Can I just say that if you approach any other Trek or work of fiction with this kind of lens, I don't understand how you can get enjoyment watching anything. Most of these criticisms don't really mean anything in terms of the big or little picture. Heck, from the way you're phrasing it, these aren't even your own criticisms. They are ones you've seen others make.

I don't think Discovery had an auto pilot. But if did, so what?

So what? A small ship can still generate tremendous tractor beams. And keep in mind that Discovery was doing a lot of the work trying to break free from the ice. The ship didn't need even to have a powerful enough tractor beam to pull Discovery from the ice solo.

Presumably in a shuttlebay or two, or left behind in the 2200s. Who cares?

Good job quoting that doofus.

Anyway, she could be wearing a wig. She could have put in extensions. She could have done something to speed up her natural hair growth. Who cares?

Unlike us, the Discovery crew had no particular reason to understand that time travel could result in Burnham appearing in a wildly separate time/space from them. They thus reasonably were worried that a) Burnham was dead or in trouble b) they were in no position to know which and c) there was the little matter of her still having to close off the possible threat of control by sending the suit to make the seventh signal.

That's a lot to be emotional about. They aren't Vulcans.

Who cares, who cares, who cares?

He presumably feels the ship spinning and/or sees the things outside spinning.

I'm not sure if the "internal continuity error" is supposed to be about the spinning or Detmer, but whatever the case, there is nothing wrong with nobody noticing that there's something wrong with Detmer. They have a lot going on.

Compare that, say, to no humans -- not just Kirk and Bones and the rest of the Enterprise crew -- knowing that Vulcans have the mate-or-die impulse every seven years as established in Amok Time, and it seems like we're talking a different level of ridiculousness.

Have you ever been in love? I just am wondering because if you had, maybe you would understand or relate to how someone relieved to see their husband had pulled through a comamight want to kiss him and talk to him and then return to work.

Seems like there was plenty of urgency to me.

We will find out what happened to dilithium at some point. Clearly not all dilithium has blown up, because the show has people trading for it and using it. There's no reason to think that the Burn had to be caused by something with Q-like powers, when basically it is a made up element and the ST Universe has made up science about it.

If you're going to raise questions that haven't been answered yet, a better one would be: why haven't cultures adapted by creaing wa

There are lots of reasons why we have to take the first appearance of the Trill in TNG's "The Host" with a grain of salt against the backdrop of DS9. The physical appearance of the Trill for one is different from their appaearance in DS9. The notion that Kurzon Dax was Sisko's mentor in Starfleet and was palling around with Kor, Koloth and Kang contradicts the notion that the Trill are an exotic, enigmatic species that Starfleet barely knows. The notion that the Trill Odan from TNG doesn't use transporters because the symbiont cannae take it is contradicted by the numerous times both Daxes are transported in DS9. The notion of a joined Trill in the Host was that the outward person was just a shell and the slug's personality dominated whereas in DS9, the joined Trill's personality was a fusion of both symbiont and host.

To the extent "The Host" should be considered canon still, it shows that Dr. Crusher was able to keep the Odan symbiont alive in Riker for what has to have been at least a couple days, on having never before encounterd the Trill, basically not knowing anything about them and confined to 24th century medical science.

There is no reason to believe that by Discovery's new time frame, medical science and knowledge of the symbiont-host relationships hadn't progressed to the point that symbionts could generally live in humans for a far more protacted amount of time. It could also potentially be that a) differences in Adira's age or gender, etc. makes her a better host than Riker was b) differences in the Tal symbiont make it more adaptable than Odan was.

It should be pointed out that DS9 established that the Trill completely lied about the notion that only certain Trill were biologically capable of carrying a symbiont. It could very well be that Trill symbionts are far more adaptable than is known in the TNG/DS9 time frame.

It probably makes more sense that this is a political/cultural thing rather than a technological thing. The show never specifies, and again, I don't know that it matters all that much.

Not much

I don't think anyone I've ever seen would put the show in a category of "best Star Trek show ever." I don't even know if I've seen anyone familiar with Star Trek put it in the top three. (Usually, people put in some order TOS, TNG and DS9 on lock, with once in a while someone throwing a curve and giving VOY a slot).

For me, the main reason I watched S1 and 2 was to be a completist. It wasn't significantly better or worse to me than VOY or ENT, but there wasn't anything that said I should watch it over an average TOS/TNG/DS9 episode other than I hadn't seen it before.

S3 seems to be more spirited and interesting to me. Your mileage may vary, and if so, hey, there's plenty of other things to watch. No need to waste time with something you don't enjoy.

Not nearly as many twists and turns as you're taking in an attempt to criticize it.

You think it's her real hair, so in essence your argument is that the character couldn't have grown that much hair in the time it took the actress to grow that much hair?

Edit: as for the rest of your old man yells at cloud rant, it's filled with so many assumptions and faulty interpretations that it isn't worth addressing.

Just to be clear, these criticisms are not mine, but ones I’ve seen watching reviews. The ones that I did agree with was that they are overly emotional and it seems like they’re always crying. That and being away for a year shouldn’t be that big of a deal. As for the ship and the timesuit having an autopilot, that means that they didn’t need to go into the wormhole, they could have stayed on the Enterprise.

It would if you thought everyone you cared about wouldn't re-appear for a thousand years, and you'd be dead by then.

The Doctor on Voyager was able to stimulate the hair follicles of Seven to grow out her hair, this is 800 years later, I'm pretty sure Procter & Gamble or Johnson and Johnson or Conair, or even the Ron Popeil company has come out with a home hair growth product by then.

This just in: Ghost's real identity is an African-American beautician named Lashawnda.

There's a scene during the log entry meant to show the transition of time, in that montage she has a fro then we see her with her current do. The fro is probably SMG's real hair or at least it looked real to me. But you're supposing she stopped by her local Mot's and got her hair did?

It's also possible that Saru's quills are real, it sure looked like Doug Jone's real quills in one scene. And Spock's ears sure looked like Ethan Peck's real ears in one scene, and Linu's eyes sure looked like
David Benjamin Tomlinson's real eyes in one scene. And L'rell's tits sure looked like Mary Chiefo's real tits in one scene.