Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

Not only will it be $6 a month but you also get to watch ads during the show!

You realize this is sarcasm, @Dayton3 ?

I didn't care for Janeway, but it wasn't because she had a vagina. I just didn't much like Mulgrew's performance.

Um, you don't actually think I was suggesting those two names be cast do you?

What I meant is we've seen strong black female officers before....and according to Dicky's link the lead will be a Lt.Commander.

And no, no Firefly actors please. No all of us are genre nerds who like that grossly overrated schlock.

What, no Chris Pine?

Aside from the gay character we've seen all this before.....infact we've probably seen the gay character as well if you count Bashir twice.

I was fine with her performance, it was the idiocy of the character as written that got on my nerves -- no worse, in fact better, than most of her male co-stars, mind you.

Heretic!

It's somewhat troubling that with a show that CBS interactive is hoping will kick start their Hulu competitor and is due to premier in 5 months, that they don't have a finished script, haven't finished casting or locked down a lead, started any kind of principal photography, and still have firmed up their ideas about the ship and/or SFX.

I mean, 5 months!

So much for my non-linear theory.

It may be that they have a lead picked out, and just haven't finished the contract negotiations with them. As for the script, ISTR a couple of block buster movies who's scripts were written in about a month's time, so its not that big of a deal.

Possibly, but in television production you need a reserve of scripts ready to go, or at least in a first draft stage. It's just very odd that with it due for broadcast in 5 months, nothing in finalized, or in the can.

I must admit I have been worried about the short turnaround time, which was only just over a year when they first announced the show.

At least they know better now than to make a woman captain.

Let me tell you this. If I go through all the positive rep I get from Dayton over half of it are to posts where I say horrible horrible things generally parodying him.

When I first got into fanfiction and fanfic snark, I noticed Bashir was always and without exception the bottom to everyone in Trek....including Kira

Interesting move to have the lead NOT be the Captain - although it looked like they originally wanted that angle with Picard: focus on Riker more as the man of action and have Picard as a remoter figure.

Sounds like they've already ruled out this "event that has been talked about but not yet seen" being the Axanar Treaty, so what could it be? "A decade before Kirk's five-year mission" puts it 2255, too late for the start of the Klingon-Fed cold war. Axanar is the best fit, being 2251, but if they've definitely kiboshed that then:

2255 was the date of the Treaty of Armens after first contact with the Sheliak, but that's a bit derp.

2254 however was the Enterprise's trip to Talos under Pike, plus the year Kirk beat the Kobayashi Maru test...

2251 (apart from Axanar) is also the year April's command of the Enterprise ends and Pike takes the centre seat.

2250 Kirk enters Starfleet Academy.

Well, TV does move a lot faster than movies, and this is a very short season. But do we know they don't have any scripts yet?

This might have been true once. Still is, but obviously not for everything. STAR WARS: TFA was done within two years If they have everything else ready, this really shouldn't be a problem at all. Additionally they just won't give out all the information. I mean, tell the audience you have a script. Go on, tell them. And despair because all you'll hear from now on is begging for details.

I'd definitely let Kira get on top of me! Not so sure about involving "toys", but she could sure try to convince me!

So this is yet another prequel?

I predict it will suck more balls than a British immigration lawyer at a gay Iranian brothel.

^^^ As soon as I posted that, I also realized that a British immigration lawyer sucking gay Iranian testicles is exactly what this series will be all about, given its over-the-top enthusiasm to embrace "diversity".

Yeah! Let's not wait until the series comes out to judge it!

When do we ever do that?

Ha ha. Your frothy butthurt over me is more delicious every time I read a new update.

Why not get yourself banned again?

I don't think 10 or 20 years earlier is enough of a time difference to qualify as a prequel, considering the overall saga is measured in centuries. Seems more like a parallel series with TOS. They probably did ten years earlier just to avoid pressure or an option to add Kirk and crew to the mix. But fundamentally, it's a story from the TOS era.

Glad to hear they're going down the social justice checklist instead of pushing exciting stories and compelling characters. Sounds like quality television.

As opposed to Voyager and Enterprise that didn't try anything new at all instead of pushing exciting stories and compelling characters!

Androgynous aliens, lesbian kisses, gender switching Trill. All of this has been Treked before, better and with less fanfare. Social justice is BORING. This will Suck unless it had kickass dudes being kickass. Timestamp it.

Sounds pretty ghey

And while we've had aliens exploring this stuff, none of this has ever been addressed with human characters. The famous Kirk/Uruha kiss made it past censors because the both of them were being mind controlled, and one example.

If there's any show that should be champions of diversity, it's Star Trek. I doubt any of this will be at the forefront of what people see of the character, but it sends an important message of just being acknowledged. That's why TOS clicked with so ma people. The downside of which was Whoopi Goldberg was inspired to be an actress but so we're so many others because of one black lady who wants someone's maid.

These things matter to people .