Star Trek: Picard.

How much you wanna bet that there’s a secret backup copy of Data’s positronic matrix that’s stored in B4 and Dats comes back that way?

Makes sense with all the "Worf is a pacifist" hand wringing and him actually beheading a Ferengi in his first episode.

What do you mean “secret”? We saw Data hooked up to B4 to do just that in Nemesis.

Yeah, but as far as we know, it didn't work, right? B4's positronic matrix wasn't complex enough to take Data's... data.

And then Maddox quantum scanned a copy of that copy, and that copy committed suicide in virtual reality.
So even if there's some quadruple copy out there, it's just gonna kill itself.

The last scene of B4 is him singing a tune Data liked. The implication is that Data’s still in there, he’s just having trouble figuring things out on how to work the new body.

Pretty clear that the plan was if the movie got a sequel, we’d be doing the whole “getting Spock back” routine that we saw in ST:III. No reason they can’t do that now and pass Spiner’s decrepitude off as design defects on B4’s body. Data could refuse to have them corrected because he wants to experience what aging is like for biological species.

Yeah, but then they had the cloning angle in season one and Jurati is a Both queen now so they can mumble jumbo the shit out of it.

Sadly, I think you're correct. We all knew Spiner was coming back from the trailers.

Fuck.

We already saw Lore in the trailers, so I'm guessing it's more likely to be Lore and Moriarty that were stolen.

Maybe we get some kind of twist where Lore inherited the emotion chip and another copy of Data's memories and the two combined turned him good with The Power Of Friendship.

OR....

It's Lore. Or to be specific the disassembled android wasn't B4 at all.

Is it, though? I subbed to Paramount Plus specifically because of Picard because I knew his history and wanted to see what happened in the 20 years since his last outing, and I suspect that was the case for the vast majority of it's viewers.

I've met new fans who got into Trek but ever other new show and movie post-ENT except for Picard. This one more than any other show has been geared with existing fans in mind, and that includes the series that was billed specifically to be Memberberries: The Animed Series.

EDIT: also speaking of Lower Decks, even they care enough about details to have Shaxs say "by the prophets" and to have Shari Yn Yim refer to herself as "this one" like her species did in their one appearance in TAS. PIC has no excuse for that level of sloppiness.

So I talked to Robert Meyer Burnett who supposedly has seen the whole season. I asked him if he could give us any insight into what’s going on with the founders and he said all Changlins are founders, but not all founders are changlings.

I assumed FF was engaging in some uncharacteristic deadpan humour. I laughed.

I just want you to know that of all the things you've ever posted in the last decade, this sentence is the thing that's made me the angriest.

Lore? Refresh my memory, I thought he was destroyed in a TNG episode?

He was supposedly dismantled after "Descent" but we didn't see it happen onscreen, so anything could have happened.

I just have to say, damn, I miss Data.
Ever since they killed Data, all of Spiner's characters have been pricks.
We never seem to pull another Data or Lal, even by slot machine odds.

Eh, even Data started to become a prick toward the end of the series.

By Generations, with the emotion chip installed, he became a full-on annoying prick.

All of the characters had started turning into annoying pricks by the end of the series. Part of that was because they all wanted to stretch their range so that they could find jobs besides TNG and part of it was like what happened in the final years of M*A*S*H where the actors had gotten so friendly with one another that they reacted to one another as friends, rather than as their characters.

Saw this on Reddit

if they can't figure out a reversible vasectomy by then...

They had - remember Sisko and Kassidy conceiving was because "one of them" forgot to take their shot.

That does imply both partners need to take it, but at least it doesn't put all the responsibility on Mom like the current pill.

That said, my ex made me use condoms anyway since both have a failure rate.

Eh, I'm sure birth control is better than it is today but I'm sure there's still gonna be the occassional space virus or other shit that could fuck with it the way Saint John's Wort fucks with BCPs

That said, I find it a stretch that even for the advanced life expectancy in the 24th century that Beverly could still get knocked up accidentally. She had to be early to mid fifties in Nemesis?

Oldest mother on record TODAY was 67 years old (well, 66 and 358 days)...

With intervention.

I'm pretty sure that one wasn't a surprise as it's implied Jack's conception was

IIRC maybe Spiner just likes playing a prick. My coworker got his autograph at a con a few years ago, Spiner spend the whole time flirting with the coworkers cute Indian girlfriend and asking her for Indian restaurant recommendations. My coworker kept thinking "Is he doing a bit? Is this a bit? I can't get mad at my childhood hero if he's just doing a bit..."

Presumably advanced 24th century nutrition and medical care delays a lot of age-related declines in stuff like fertility or muscle tone. We can see that today that wealthier people seem to age slower than they did a few decades ago.

I'm more annoyed by the retcon that Crusher and Picard had tried making a relationship work five times before Nemesis.

That would your friend's first problem.

(Among many, I'm sure, if Spiner was his hero.)

Apparently a lot of awkward people (women especially) really loved Data because he was such a strong yet non-threatening male figure. My coworker is indeed an awkward guy that grew up without a dad.

Partially related: My late father, who was a shitty unprepared parent and worked as a security guard, very much looked up to Worf.