Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

My knowledge of music theory is, I thought, as rudimentary as it gets. As near as I can tell, whoever wrote that part of Spock's dialogue has a knowledge of music theory that consists of "had someone read them the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article but didn't actually listen."

One really only needs to know three things about music theory to understand why it is wrong:

1: A major third is less than an octave above a root note.
2: A perfect fifth, while higher than a major third, is also less than an octave above a root note.
3: Doubling the frequency of a root note is an octave higher.

Therefore, if thirds and fifths are less than an octave, their frequencies would have to be less than double. 3x and 5x are more than double.

Not only did Spock fail at music theory, he failed at logic too.

It depends upon how one came across that particular concept in music theory. I learned about it from reading this book that talks about how the Ancient Greeks and Romans would set out bronze pots in their amphitheaters to act as passive speakers/amplifiers. The terminology used was a bit odd to me (I was a trombonist in high school, but never studied music theory in college). When I read the book, my neighbor happened to be someone with a music degree, and I asked him if he could explain it to me (since it'd be cool as fuck to know how to make brass pots that acted as passive amps), and he had trouble with it. Not because he was stupid, but just because the terms were unfamiliar to him.

So, I can easily see the issue being caused by someone who had a bit of passing knowledge of music theory but was just too lazy to run down the particular rabbit hole to ensure that they got the "fiddly bits" right.

Those notes are possible, but Jimmy Hendrix has to play them.

If I hadn’t checked her IMDB credits, I’d swear that the actress playing La’an Noonien Singh did the voice work for Samantha Traynor in Mass Effect 3. It baffles me how much they sound alike.

This most recent episode was... eh. It was ok. Nothing to write home about. Not sure how I feel about

yeah... I was kind of wondering if Spock had been infected as there were a couple of lines he delivered which seemed like he was high or something.

I thought this was pretty good. Not as good as the first two, but pretty decent.

that's what I thought...

oh.. and for anyone who cares about actual locations.

Cinesphere (guess which building that is) was also one of the earliest Imax screens...

Ours is nicer

it's close... but we can agree that they're both better than Montreal's?

Just watched it again… I know.

It’s definitely getting better as I digest it more, IMHO. The things that give you concern are one of the things I like the most about this. We learned some really interesting things about the crew in this ep. Some of it unsavory but nothing malicious, IMHO. Pike & Number 1 sticks up for them and I guarantee you that when the moment comes, they’ll fight like hell to reciprocate. This is how leaders inspire loyalty & confidence. If this keeps up, I may end up with a new favorite Captain.

Good to know doo-rags are still around in the 23rd century.

This felt like a TNG episode, light beings was a reoccurring thing. Is this going to be like Discovery where everyone has a tragic backstory? This episode was good in the sense that we got to see more of the ship, the Enterprise must get one hell of an overhaul once Kirk takes command. Speaking of Kirk, so now Number One does know for sure there's a descendant of Khan on board so is she keeping it a secret and that's how come Spock doesn't know about her? How many things are going to be classified or whatever in order to fit into TOS canon, it seems a little ridiculous. This episode wasn't horrible, but because it reminded me so much of TNG, I could pretty much see where they were going. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.

I, too, liked the first couple of episodes better but this one was still solid.

My favorite line:

Great TOS callback.

Who is your current favorite captain?

Get a room or stop comparing balls.

I keep going back and forth between Picard & Sisko.

Me too.

Sisko has been unsullied. Thankfully Avery Brooks has no interest in returning to the role. Ergo, The Sisko is top dog.

Dude, just let go of your Discovery hate and realize that a) most characters in Discovery don't have tragic backstories and b) of Trek series where characters have backstories, more of them are tragic than not.

Discovery has: Michael (orphaned at a young age, raised as a semi-Vulcan outcast), Saru (member of a race treated as prey/second-class citizens), Airiam (unspecified accident that left her with bionic implants). That's it. I think that's about it, but feel free to add any that I've overlooked. We haven't had much on the backstories of Tilly, Stametz, Culber, Jett, Detmer, Owo, Bryce. Oh I forgot the nonbinary character, Gray. Lorca and Space Hitler came from the harsh mirror universe but they liked it, so I wouldn't consider their backstories tragic. Book had friction with his father but I don't think it rises to the level of tragedy. (Note: as backstory we're not including stuff that happened during the course of the series).

TNG had: Picard (stabbed in the heart as a cadet, not to mention retroactive family issues); Riker (mother died young, basically abandoned by abusive father), Data (an entire colony that he was from killed in front of him, his father apparently killed, learns he has a psychotic evil twin, subject to discrimination as a rare sentient AI, left with a longing to be human that he will never be able to achieve), Beverly (husband killed in line of duty), Tasha (grew up trying to escape rape gangs), Worf (orphaned at a young age and forced to grow up among humans as a Klingon, never quite belonging), Wesley (father died in line of duty), Geordi (born blind from birth with some regrets about inability to see; mother died/disappeared in line of duty).

DS9 had: Sisko (wife and other loved ones killed by the Borg, sent into a massive depression); Kira (war orphan forced to do questionable things to survive and fight for freedom); Odo (separated from his people and forced to live as an outsider/experiment/curiosity); Jadzia (X number of previous lives, at least some of which had tragedy befall them, in particular the serial killer one); Bashir (product of forbidden genetic engineering who had to constantly hide who he was and what he could do for fear that he or his parents would have to pay the price); Jake (mom murdered by the Borg); Worf (see above).

Voy had: Chakatoy (forced to take up arms against Cardassian aggression as member of the Maquis); Torres (same, plus difficulties associated with being half-Klingon/half-human); Paris (criminal disgrace to Starfleet and admiral father); Kes (originally a Kazon slave, plus being a member of a short-lived race); Seven (assimilated by the Borg at a young age and deprived of her humanity)

ENT and PIC don't have as many tragic backstories to their crews as the above. But it shouldn't come as a surprise when dramas give their characters such backstories.

Three episodes in, and I'm still not skipping the opening credits.

How GOOD is the guy playing Spock playing Spock on ST:SNW?

And how does his portrayal of Spock compare with Zachary Quinto's depiction of Spock in the Abramsverse movies?

Regardless of how well the 2 of them play Spock , neither one can fill Leonard Nimoy's SOCKS , nevermind his shoes.

You forgot Tilly - force fed pâté by a species of sentient geese until age 16. Rescued by an interplanetary ice cream baron’s daughter.

This episode was fine. Pretty standard TOS/TNG as far as plots go.

I liked getting backstory on Una and M’Benga.

Even though we briefly met both characters in the original series, we knew next to nothing about them so they are a blank slate to work with.

Uhura too, sadly. We barely learned anything about her in all the classic episodes and movies. When did they even give her a first name? Was it in the reboot movies?

I hope they won’t focus on Spock much in this show because we already know a ton about him.

I like the Andorian engineer. No nonsense, takes his job seriously. Blanking on his name.

I still maintain this is an alternate universe from TOS. Mostly the same but some slight differences… though not as extreme as the Kelvin-verse. Its really the only way to make sense of it all.

Trying to get this to match up to TOS will just make your brain bleed.

(In fact I will continue to believe everything from Enterprise onward has been in some sort of alternate universe, probably stemming from First Contact).

It originates in the novels, then they put it in the JJ movies, and then its carried over into everything else.

Sulu and Spock's first names come from novels too.
Edit- And Una's.

If we want to insist this is the same universe as TOS then these are the characters who cannot die in the show:

Pike
Spock
Uhura
Chapel
M’Benga
Sam Kirk

So thats probably more than half the main cast who we know will be fine during the show. Everyone else is fair game.

Kind of the problem with prequel stories in general. You were never worried about Obi Wan in the prequels because he had to survive with all of his limbs intact.

I don't really see how.
Say there's an alternate universe version of me with green yes, blonde hair, and eats his Neapolitan ice cream down the stripes instead of across.
Every other detail of his life is exactly the same including typing this post.
Is it a difference that matters?
What are the differences in SNW that matter?
Are they "Elvis is still alive" difference, or "blonde haired Dicky" difference?
So far, I'm not seeing any living-Elvis differences.

Dang D.

I had you pegged as a Raspberry Ripple guy.

Agreed. Not every episide is gonna be an instant classic, but there's something to be said for striving for solid execution.

I also appriciated the scene with Una and La'an too. I've spoken before about the difficulties of being a black kid who was....I'll be kind and say highly encouraged to integrate into white culture with a surface level knowledge of our struggles and feeling like the only way to be accepted is to have to always outperform others and it is so very tiring. Likewise, La'an being angry because she *didn't* hide (or couldn't, given her name) definitely rings true.

Una's scene at the end about being seen as "one of the good ones"....wow This is what Star Trek is about and what's been largely absent since DS9 ended and I'm here for it.

Also props to whoever decided to have Uhura wear a durag to keep her waves fresh, although I am one of the black women who is too lazy to do this each night, I appreciate this detail