Star Trek: Strange New Worlds [SPOILERS]

Maybe I'm slow on the uptake, but the "everyone's getting sick with a mystery disease" episode that we've seen a number of times before hits differently against the backdrop of the pandemic. I think the writers probably missed opportunities to make some analogies as to how we Americans at least have been responding to it. Although maybe the desperation of La'an, Hemmer and others to do crazy obviously-bad-for-you stuff because of the illness is enough of an analogy.

Oh, yeah. I was thinking the whole time it was missing some vacuous, fanfic-level social commentary about CURRENT THING.

I really don’t want the writers preaching to me.. That being said, it would be interesting to see an episode where the head of Starfleet Medical lies to the public about a disease and actually gets in trouble for it. That would be a true work of science fiction.

If all you want is "Pew! Pew!" go play fucking Asteroids.

I want interesting science fiction stories and allegories. None of that needs to involve preaching or a G. I. Joe moment where they talk to us like we’re children. The pew pew is just an added bonus.

(Insert black/white Frank Gorshin)

(Insert any Picard speech)



Stop being Dayton2.

Stop making excuses.

Your Youtuber likes that phrase.
I don't think he knows what it means.

I don’t think you know what it means to be preachy.

It's when one minority group too many for the tastes of your Youtube master wants representation, so he feels threatened, so he tells you to get angry, and come post here about it.
When we point out the hypocrisy, you call it "making excuses".
Which he also told you to do.
When he did, you said "wow! That's so smart! Nobody can defeat that! It's unbeatable! ".

Then stop watching Science Fiction.

Boom!

Stop making shit up.

Wow! That's so smart! It's unbeatable!

You know you’re not as smart and funny as you think, right? You’re just a regular douche bag who’s full of themselves. Bye, twunt

My self esteem is destroyed!
That's so smart! It's unbeatable!
Right-wing playground shit-talk is the best psychology anyone ever thought of!

MODS!!!!!

can someone please split this off into it's own thread?

So what you wanted in this latest episode was someone literally saying something about wearing masks and looks directly at the camera and says,”and you should wear one too” then at the end Mr. T walks up and says,”remember kids, don’t be a fool, wash your hands frequently to prevent transmission of diseases.” Then fades to black? That’s your idea of compelling science fiction story telling?

"In the third episode of the series, everyone gets a disease that makes them act weird" is definitely dialing the TOS/TNG nostalgia up to eleven.

I know they say a picture says a thousand words, but I'd love to hear how you got all that from a single meme.

Yep, we got our Naked Now, Naked Time, and even Babel. I can't think if VOY or ENT did anything similar. Wouldn't be surprised if they didn't since they suck.

ENT had the episode Singularity where the crew became obsessed over minor things. Trip was obsessed over fixing the Captain's chair, Archer over the intro for the book about his father, Phlox over Mayweather's headache, Reed over the tactical readiness of the ship, and Sato over perfecting her grandmother's recipe.

hang on?
excuses?

not seeing how straight fact is an excuse?

(also kind of confused as to what's being excused?)

ENT had it's third episode (if you count the premiere as a single) with the hallucinogenic plants and the away team trippin' ballz.
VOY had a shitty time loop and then the phage episode

"Let that Be Your Last Battlefield" Is not the best TOS episode. It has a great cast and it has a great (not so subtle) message and a clear example of racism so that even little kids can understand what's going on. It's the not so subtle part that I think could have been done better. Maybe back then not so much, but take "Far Beyond the Stars" for example. It's an episode about racism that makes it clear to the audience that racism is bad and immoral, yet doesn't have such a hit you over the head feel with a literal half black, half white person. Dicky thinks he's being cute and clever when he points out that past episodes of Trek had episodes like "Let that Be Your Last Battlefield", it's not clever. Like I said, it's not a great episode and I don't just give it a pass because it's TOS. Don't make excuses for current Trek's bad writing by pointing to past Trek's bad writing. I have no problem if the writers want to write an allegory about something going on in the real world (the Picard writers tried to do this with illegal immigration and failed miserably), just do it cleverly. A half and half guy is not clever or subtle, a story about a black science fiction writer in the 60s who writes great stories, but can't get them published because he's black is clever and very close to reality.

I am, you just don't like it because it's against you.
If I were embarrassing an enemy of yours, you'd fucking love it.

okay.. so ranting aside, it's because you feel modern trek writing is bad.
also that TOS writing was bad, but in a different, more simplistic sort of way. Frankly, NuTrek is more relevant to the 21st century despite half the fan base stuck living in the mid 20th.
I'd tend to disagree, at least for the first two seasons of DISCO. I've always been fond of the idea that if one is to think outside of the box, there must still be a box, and they did a pretty decent job of it (before whiners got under their skin and they caved to this 31stC BS).

My guy, what do you think the very last scene with Una was?

Of all the storylines about Bigotry Bad™, this was is right up there with "Let That Be You Last Battlefield" in its lack of subtlety.

Also-also, this was written by a black woman, which is why the critique of Pike (and the franchise as a whole) was there. If you don't morality speeches, you're in the wrong franchise.

Tell me, Historian, what was going on in the 1960s that would necessitate the writers to take the most basic bitch, bottom feeder, obvious approach to get through to the audience to say "Racism Bad" the way that they did?

"Battlefield " hasn't aged that well, but not for this reason: the oppressed one was entirely valid in not trusting his oppressor and there was definitely one side that was worse than the other. But the fact that people are saying this now, almost sixty years later, shows how far the conversation has come. There wouldn't be a "Far Without the Stars" without this episode and there wouldn't have been a "Ghosts of Illyria" without "Stars."

Your media analysis would embarrass that of the Tumblr brats who believe that shipping two guys with a wide age gap will turn you into a pedophile, my God.