Finally have this now. MUCH better. Tighter, the new effects shots make some stuff make more sense, (for example, the formation of the walkway to the Voyager complex at the end) the V'Ger externals are really cool, all around, way better. Oh, I still need a nap halfway through, but compared to the 79 cut, much improvement.
Agreed. And don't anybody even try that "You hate Trek remastered but it's okay for them to fuck with TMP?" stuff I got over at TBBS. Two different situations. two different philosophies, and the director himself did it. TMP was unfinished when it was released, and the director deciding to finish it is fine by me.
I love the enhanced shot of Kirk when he first sees the E, with the added reflection of the ship in the shuttlepod's window.
I find myself liking TMP more and more as I get older- and the director's cut fixed a lot of issues. One major screwup, though- they got the perspective wrong when you can see the nacelle out of the officer's lounge window. Coupled with the star movement, it makes it look like the ship is moving in a sideslip.
Yeah. The director's cut fucking rocked for sure. It really showed how much was missing as far as the opticals go. The new effects really show the threat to Earth a hell of a lot better. There were only two things I didn't like. It was nice that they added the nacelle in the lounge scene after Spock came aboard, but the stars path makes it look like they're going in circles. It isn't following the correct angle. Also, I didn't like how they messed around with the sound effects. I miss the hard klaxon and I miss the 'intruder alert' and 'negative control at helm', etc. bits. Other than that, it was fucking outstanding.
You know that scene where Spock is floating through V'ger's memories? Would have been fun to see a Borg Cube in there...the assimilators, assimilated!
Someone wrote V'Ger (or the machine planet that sent it back) as the origin of the Borg in a novel I read once. Forget which one.
I remember that, too. Something about Ilia and Decker being "the first Borg" or something like that...
No...no. That doesn't work with what I remember. It involved a secret Romulan/Borg plot, and an attempt to assimilate Spock which was halted because he was seen to already be Borg due to of the meld with V'ger, which happened before Decker and Ilia...merged.
Star Trek: The Return. The one where Kirk got ressurected after Generations, and leading into First Contact. Yeah, the machine planet was the Borg homeworld, and then V'ger evolved via assimilation from Borg tech, into what it ended up becoming.
Also the O-lounge windows don't match the shape of the O-lounge windows on the model (below the bridge on the aft end of the B/C deck bulge). They DO match the shape of the crew rec room windows (5 o'clock on the saucer), because that's the set they used. But the position of the nacelles in the windows doesn't match either location. Tom Sasser fudged up a rationalization when he designed the 1/350 Polar Lights Enterprise model. On the forward wall of the rec room, he placed two viewscreens, and provided decals of the images of the nacelles as seen thru the "windows" in the film. Hence, Kirk, Spock and McCoy were NOT standing by windows, they were actually in the back room of the lounge, and what we saw was viewscreens showing random aft views. Yeah, I know. It's a streeeeetch.
It's unspeakably nerdy I wonder if I should watch my TMP DVD again. I've only see the original cut once when I was 12 or so and the DC also once when I bought the DVD.
Indeed. I do prefer the Garametverse as opposed to what we got onscreen. "Strangers From The Sky" would have been a hell of a good movie...maybe with Dennis Haysbert as Captain Nyere...
It's nice that it was tightened up. You could cook Thanksgiving dinner through some of those V'ger fly-through scenes.
The Return is pretty good. It lead to a story where you now had Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty all in the 24th Century now.
Technically, they all did make it to the 24th Century... McCoy in "Encounter at Farpoint" Spock in "Unification" and Kirk in "Generations" Oh, and Scotty in "Relics" If Voyager or DS9 had gone another season or two, I'm sure we'd have found out that Chekov, Uhura, and Sulu all somehow made it to the 24th...
Sulu made it via a line of throwaway dialogue in Voyager (captain Sulu sponsered Chakotay in the acadamy), and Uhura made it in the Garametverse.
