Strike!

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  1. Chris

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    I'm worried. People I talked to speculated that only one factory would go down at a time, as a "show of force", not a real strike. But at the end of my shift, they started handing out picket duty charts. National talks have broken down apparently, and every plant is preparing to walk.

    There's a meeting at 10 tonight, I'm heading to that. You'll probably know before I get back.

    But this looks bad. Very, very bad.
  2. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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  4. The Original Faceman

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  5. Uncle Albert

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    Not a good time to be a problematic auto worker. I say fire them all and outsource their jobs to someone who might be grateful for the work.

    :ualbert:
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  6. Black Dove

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    Illegal immigrants?
  7. Uncle Albert

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    Nah. Move the plants to Mexico. :diacanu:
  8. Chris

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    Eat a dick, cock mongler. I'm a fucking model employee who busts his ass beyond what they ask me, every fucking god damn day, and I still don't have a "real" job.

    I could be laid off tomorrow and never called back. Hell, I don't even have health insurance. I just want to work Monday and not worry about this shit.
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  9. Chris

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    And I'll fucking add, the American worker provides the greatest return for his cost in the world.
  10. The Exception

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    Please, you couldn't handle factory work. Pansy.
  11. Chris

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    Nah, I think he'd do fine.

    It's when he decides to cross the picket line that will get him into trouble. :P
  12. Lt. Mewa

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    I hear you man. Its people like Uncle Albert and that kind of thinking that is fucking up America.

    Outsourcing!!! :dayton:
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  13. marathon

    marathon Calm Down, Europe...

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    Would there be less outsourcing without unions? :soholy:
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  14. The Original Faceman

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    Well there's Japanese workers who don't complain, work for less, and, oh yeah, make a quality product. So :sob:
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  15. The Exception

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    You had me until "make a quality product".
  16. Archangel

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    I don't support the outsourcing...

    however...

    These damned greedy unions need to be shown the door.
  17. The Exception

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    How are they greedy?
  18. Uncle Albert

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    Oh, suck my balls, the lot of ya. :finger:

    So ignore the strike and go to fucking work. I would.

    And "he" has also got one of the most inflated senses of entitlement to be found anywhere, regardless of economic realities or any sense of perspective.

    I bet I could handle a lot more manual labor than you, ya marshmallowy little beeyotch.
    :finger:

    Thinking that you should accept your employer's terms or go fucking work somewhere else? Thinking that I'd deal with a strike at a factory I owned by replacing every single one of the striking workers?

    "!"
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  19. Archangel

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    Are you really that clueless?

    They aren't even close to what they were when they were created. Unions destroy business' by blackmailing them for more and more benefits even theough they already have great benefits. They make it virtually impossible to fire anyone....even complete shitbags. They stir up completely un-needed tension between management and workers. Much like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who claim to want racial peace, it's BS. Race peddlers or unions don't benefit from harmony. This is from personal experience.
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  20. Jeff Cooper Disciple

    Jeff Cooper Disciple You've gotta be shittin' me.

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    Are you willing to put your family at risk by crossing a picket line? There was a strike at the hospital here a few years back and someone shot up the house of a scab while he was at work and his kids were home.
  21. Xerafin

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    As opposed to the stellar quality of products coming out of Detroit? :rofl:
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  22. Uncle Albert

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    If that's the kind of thugs you find in a union, GM should be ashamed for dealing with them at all. To answer your question, no, I will not yield to cowardly thugs like that. It only encourages more of the same. I'd travel armed and put up cameras in my front yard if I had to.

    Unions piss me off. I'd walk right the fuck through that picket line.
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  23. The Exception

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    A union built my car and it turns 20 next year, still runs great.

    Try getting that far with a fucking Toyota.
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  24. The Exception

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    You ever work in a factory? I haven't, but I've heard a lot of stories, and it isn't a cakewalk. Union workers may get great health care, but its because they fucking deserve it. The air is polluted, they deal with hazardous chemicals, and it gets to sweltering temperatures in the summers. Consequently, they deserve the high pay too.

    And when you think about it, what is the cost to the company of the worker making a vehicle? It takes 30 man hours to build a vehicle from start to finish, if you believe the figures of $85 an hour after benefits, that's a cost of $2550. How much do most cars go for? Certainly a lot more than $2550.

    People who go on strike don't like to go on strike, it means they don't get paid.
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  25. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Drive a Toyota or a Nissan someday.

    You can't even break 'em on purpose!
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  26. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Dude, that's the fucking norm for a Toyota.
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  27. Elwood

    Elwood I know what I'm about, son.

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    A hell of a lot more goes into a car than 30 non-thinking and repetative man hours on the assembly line. :marathon:

    Also, and for the record, if you could be replaced by a robot, you've got more serious problems than a strike. Go to fuckin' school! I say that as someone that once worked in a factory over a summer. There's no way in hell I'd do that for the rest of my life unless I literally had no other choice.
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  28. Aenea

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    :banana: I'm so happy I live in a state where I don't HAVE to join the God Damn union. :diacanu:
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  29. LizK

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    Face, the Japanese ethic is totally different that the American ethic (or at least it was) due to the way the Japanese worker and employer relate to each other.
    The employer was duty bound to make the worker's life at least liveable if not more than that - since employees usually stayed at the one place of work for life, and then their children would join the company work force. In Japan, the term for the employee is "companyman."
    So the employer made sure the that employee had a place to live, and a health care that did take care of the employees. The employees didn't have to worry about suddenly losing what they were working for.
  30. Chris

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    They're unionized, have a national healthcare system, and what little they still beat us on is the result of Japanese engineers.