Initial reaction without reading recent posts in this thread or anything else is...it's okay. Not as bad as reviews suggested, but not in the same league as T1 or T2. Probably of a similar quality to T3 or Salvation, both of which were entertaining but seriously flawed.
A timeline chart won't help you. The reason is that as you make it, following along with the movie and understanding what's gone on so far, a time travel event occurs that changes both your chart and your memory of your chart. This will happen several times, so that your final chart is virtually unrelated to your early charts and understandings whose existence was erased by altering the timeline. You just have to roll with it.
To boil it down more, T1 & T2, we're dealing with a single changeable timeline, T3, a branching timeline, T4, the mere consequences of T3, but Genisys seems to be throwing hyper-time into the mix.
Would anything in Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles have presaged the timeline complexities? I recall one almost stand-alone episode where Cameron was doing research in the state archives each night, uncovering a terminator that had arrived in the 1920's due to an error, but which set itself up in construction so that it could build the building where a modern governor of California would give his acceptance speech - and kill him. But that was still pretty straightforward.
I forgot to mention it earlier, there is one detail that does bother me about Genisys. In the original Terminator movie, when that T-800 is damaged, his skin become necrotic. The T-800 in Genisys has the skin covering most of his right arm dissolved by acid. He says that it would take several years for the skin to grow back. I guess a real world (as close as possible anyway) would be that the T1's T-800 was only concerned about killing Sarah. Where the Genisys T-800 had to be able to continue to blend in, so he sought out or at least self administered medical treatments to keep his tissue from becoming necrotic.
A problem in both is that skin over a robot chassis (as revealed in T2 when he peels his forearm to show the Dyson family) would look like skin over a skeleton. Without some underlying flexible material that mimicked muscle, they wouldn't look remotely real.
Yeah, that's another splinter timeline. Breaking off of T2, and cancelling out T3 & T4. Then the finale makes yet another timeline. Thanks to Genisys, that whole branch is just kinda floating out there somewhere. Edit- and 1920's Terminator is covered by a predestination paradox.
Dickynoo's summary is helpful, but there's a whole lot more going on that it doesn't account for, and all sorts of internal inconsistencies as well. One review said that it was a puzzle with a third of the pieces missing, and on that point I concur.
I liked it. Tired of seeing the golden gate bridge getting wrecked in every action movie in the past few years though. The future war stuff was pretty good and it looks like they are setting up a fairly interesting mystery, and I've wanted to see SKYnet as a character for a while.
I'm sure if I REALLY wanted to sit there and nit-pick it, I could come up with a good list of continuity errors or things that don't make sense. But at the end of the day, it's an Arnie movie, it did what I expected it to do: it entertained me. I had fun. And I really liked how close Emilia Clarke came to looking like Linda Hamilton at times. That was cool. And I don't mind Jai Courtney nearly as much as some other people do.
With a combined foreign and domestic take of $251 million, Terminator: Genisys is out of "bomb" territory. But considering that's over $100 million short of Terminator: Salvation and around $200 million short of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, I think this film franchise is terminated.
The sequels are already greenlit. Plus you aren't accounting for the fact that it's not yet ended it's run. At 16 days Salvation had only taken $14m more.
I'll wager those plans will change. Mind you, I'm not saying I hope there won't be sequels. But I think the box office performance doesn't justify them. A fair point, but Genisys is still going to come in well below Salvation.
Paramount's stance on sequels is "mehhhh....let's see how it does in China...". http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/37984/the-future-of-terminator-furious-8 Sounds dead to me.
Yeah, I think that probably means the end. Hopefully, they don't try to make another sequel on the cheap.
They really should stop making movies that don't finish their stories and rely on sequels which may or may not be made to do so.
That story doesn't tell me anything. Who is the source? The global market and DVD sales haven't even begun yet.
According to imdb, it's been released everywhere but China and Lebanon. Terminator: Genisys release dates on imdb Like I wrote earlier, it's not going to be a bomb--the production will show a profit--but it's kinda doubtful that anyone's going to be in a hurry to invest more in this property. I heard the rights go back to Cameron in a few years...maybe he'll reboot it.
They may do another one to keep Cameron from getting the rights back. It could be like the Sony Spider-Man deal, where they keep the rights so long as they keep pumping out movies.
The rights go back to Cameron in 2019 no matter what, so either way he can make new ones after that. Plus Cameron has also stated he considers Genisys to be the "third" movie.
Well, given the post-credit scene and the fact that someone sent two Terminators back to 1973 to target/save Sarah means that all is not actually resolved yet. I'd like to see all of that played out, and to see if there is a clever way it can happen from the new timeline. What I would really like to see is the very first movie remastered with modern effects where possible- particularly the future stuff. I'd rank it as third best in the series, with T2 and Terminator taking the one and two spots, respectively. I'm lukewarm on Jai whatsisface but I'm sold with Emilia Clarke playing S.C.
Well, it broke the $300 million mark (worldwide) over the weekend, which is getting into respectable territory. This franchise may not be dead yet.
