"The 1980's are calling to ask for their foreign policy back."

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  1. matthunter

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  2. Ten Lubak

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    JD Vance really torpedoed that meeting, it’s pretty amazing that clown has any position of power
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    That’s why you don’t take your kid to work.
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    Also reports are that Zelenskyy has left the White House without signing the BS deal
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    As in so many other instances, this is simply Trump not having the sense to conceal the real power dynamic, in this case the nature of the client-patron relationship.

    Being thrown to the wolves once their usefulness is at an end is an experience many have had before Zelensky.
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    And I guess fuck Zelensky for not genuflecting strongly enough
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  8. 14thDoctor

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    Fuck Vance, but I'm 99% sure everything he says in public is dictated in advance by Musk and/or Trump. He's just reciting the lines he was given. :shrug:
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    They probably invited Zelensky to the meeting so they could have a starting point to abandon Ukraine completely, it’s likely this was all by design

    Russia first
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    He's in a no-win situation but I did comment before on his failing to "play" Trump correctly.

    That said, doing so can end up a lot like the nauseating toadying of Keir Starmer and King Abdullah. I'm not sure if it's any better.

    Sisi refused to meet him. Probably the best approach so far.
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    The problem with trying to play Trump is that, clearly, he's in Putin's pocket so Zelensky can't trust ANYTHING he says. Look at how much Trump's attitude changed within a few weeks of being elected, and that was with Zelensky sucking up to him.
    So with that being the case, Zelensky is better off doing what he did today I think.
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    My problem is… I cannot help myself but still think „wow, this is on live TV in the US, people are gonna see him got the disgusting asshole he is“… I should really know better, I mean, this is not new… I should know that this, being a troll, being a bully, being a nihilistic clown… is precisely WHY they love him.
    Fuck.
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    More on topic: I so hope that Europe somehow manages to fill this void… but I‘m not really optimistic. I have the strong feeling, whatever is going to happen to Ukraine now, its something we‘re all going to look back to with a well deserved feeling of guilt in a couple of decades
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    Between this and the announcement of cessation of cyber operations against Russia, unless the whole thing was pre-scripted, I think the odds of US intelligence agencies ever getting intel from our allies again are about 0.
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    Yep, this.
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    Fuck I hate being right all the time. :diacanu:
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    It was premeditated. Of all the clowns in the GOP, Vance has always been the most opposed to US support for Ukraine.
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    I saw this somewhere else and I’m paraphrasing but it would’ve been less embarrassing if JD Vance had just fucked the couch he was sitting on during that session
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    A tweet from Robert Preston, a senior UK political journalist.

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    See this type of thing is why we shouldn't have banned FF, so we could rub his nose in the giant shit on the rug that is the foreign policy he would then go on to vote for.
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