The All Time Greatest Random Mass Shooting Thread

Sure. You played the race card.

Winner, those who played the race card, and guess what? it trumped all the others because mom was a Trumpanzee, and the parents bought the kid the gun he used.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ethan-crumbley-identified-alleged-michigan-192313536.html

Guess what, there is a nice little video from the 15 year old's vlog on there, along with some parts of mom's open love letter to Trump.

Good news for the local prison, that little monster is going to be the cutest mouth in the pen. Them chomos are going to have to pay big ramen for that ass. I rarely root for the chomos, but make his ass hurt boys.

Other Good news is hopefully they are going to throw mom and dad in jail too.

edit: Oops, sorry the video was from some relative not from him. I have no idea why the video was on there as it wasn't from him.

Second edit: It was him under his father's name which is why the account was a different name than his.

Ex florida trumpers.

At least the DA is considering prosecuting the parents. They deserve full credit for their son's actions.

Thoughts and prayers!

I’d like to know the full story before rushing to condemn someone for essentially can be considered though crimes.

You'll rush to finish a sentence without checking the fucking spelling, though.

Completely the same thing.

The father bought the gun his son used a couple days before the shooting.

I understand that, but we don’t know how the boy got possession of the gun. If he somehow stole it then I don’t see how the parents are at fault.

Which is why there needs to be an investigation.

Let's look at a vaguely similar situation without involving guns. Say a drunk driver hits a car and the only fatality is a baby in the car that got hit. Now, if the baby was in a child seat, we'd say that the parents of the baby had no responsibility in the death of said baby. After all, they followed reasonable precautions, and the law, and put their baby in the car seat. It isn't their fault that the baby died, that's the responsibility of the drunk in the other car (and potentially that of the person who sold the drunk alcohol, depending upon the circumstances).

But if the parents didn't put the baby in a car seat, then they share in part of the blame for the child's death, even though they weren't the ones driving drunk, and had no reasonable expectation that they'd have a wreck.

If the father had the gun in a safe (or otherwise secured) and the kid stole the key so that he could get the gun and use it, then I don't think that the father shares any of the blame. If, however, the father handed the kid the gun and let him do whatever he wanted to with it, then I can see a case for the father bearing some responsibility for what the kid did with the gun.

I agree, although I don’t there are any laws about putting guns in a secure area, but there are child safety laws. I would hope that the father wouldn’t enable a mass shooting though which is why I wouldn’t be so quick to judge.

Some places require guns to be secured, some places don't. And in some places, if you sell alcohol to someone who is obviously over the limit without making sure that they're not going to be driving in the near future, you can be held responsible if they get behind the wheel of a car and kill someone.

I think we can both agree that someone buying a gun while saying that they intend to use it for self-defense or to hunt game is making a reasonable statement and that if the gun is later used by that person to kill somebody just walking down the street, the seller has no responsibility. OTOH, if someone buying a gun says that they intend to kill folks who don't agree with a certain political view, or that they're going to use the gun to shoot up a public place, then the seller has some responsibility for what happens next. If we're going to hold a bartender (or store clerk) responsible for selling a drunk more booze because the drunk then gets behind the wheel and kills people, shouldn't we also hold people responsible for not securing a gun when they know that someone says they'd like to shoot people who disagree with them? And if the person who buys the gun likes to brag that they're going to kill people who disagree with them, shouldn't we treat them like the bartender who sells alcohol to someone who brags that they intend to get shit-faced and then drive a school bus loaded with kids? Even if they never pulled the trigger on that gun? Or if the bartender had nothing to go on other than that the person said they were a school bus driver?

Did tererun hack you again?

I don’t think the father intentionally bought the gun so the kid could shoot up the school.

edited for truth.

Why else do Americans buy guns, then?

I'm sure the dad bought the gun to shoot up liberals. Not the school specifically.

To shoot Canadians.

Then he’s a true Patriot.

What's lawyerforge's position on this?

That's you on the DoJ's list of possible right-wing terrorists. Filed under the "likely doesn't have the stones to actually do anything but might shelter an actual killer" category.

So, how long before Trump tells us all about how this great kid and his parents are being persecuted by the left?

The one thing I am wondering is if the school had some idea this kid had a joint on him, or if the kid was brown, would they have searched his backpack? Just another reason why you cannot trust gun owners in the US to do the right thing, and if you want to own a gun the public should have a microscope up your ass.

Forbin is overjoyed.

Yes because nobody here (Canadaforge) has ever joked about killing multiple people. Give me a break.

Check FF's outhouse/basement... those "patriots"?

https://crooksandliars.com/2021/12/james-jennifer-crumbley-manhunt

I have worked selling beer and tobacco. I have to ID everyone who is with them if they are buying those products, or else I have broken the law. If one of them is under age I am not allowed to assume they are not giving it to under age people who are with them. If I have any idea that person is buying for a child I cannot sell to them. If they are on the phone asking someone else what brand of smokes they want, I could not sell to them. If I broke that law and something bad happened I could be brought up on charges if I had any knowledge it was going to be given to a minor. If I buy beer or tobacco products and give them to a minor, even as a parent, I am guilty of crimes.

\Why isn't the POS guy who worked at the gun store being prosecuted? This is not beer and tobacco. This is a fucking pistol the retailer sold to a person with a child present while buying. Why are the police not looking at the video evidence to charge the clerk and revoke any license for the firearm seller for selling to a person who was illegally going to give the gun to the kid? Why is it OK as a society to hand firearms over too children?

Fuck the feelings of guntards and let us have some real laws.

I presume Michigan doesn't have some specific law regarding gun storage; otherwise, the parents would be charged with that.

I imagine it will come down to whether the parents' handling of the firearm constitutes negligence.