The Daily Show: white liberal racist cesspit

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  1. gturner

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    New York Times article

    Mr. Cenac, who worked on “The Daily Show” from 2008 to 2012, recounted the fight with Mr. Stewart in an episode of Marc Maron’s podcast that was posted on Thursday.

    In the podcast, Mr. Cenac described events at “The Daily Show” in 2011, after Mr. Stewart did an on-air impression of Herman Cain, a black business executive who was seeking the 2012 Republican nomination for president.

    Mr. Cenac compared Mr. Stewart’s impersonation to the Kingfish, a racially stereotyped character from “The Amos ’n’ Andy Show,” and said it struck him as “a little weird.”

    For days afterward, the Fox News Channel, a frequent target of “The Daily Show,” seized on Mr. Stewart’s imitation and criticized it as racist.

    When Mr. Cenac later tried to discourage Mr. Stewart in a staff meeting from pursuing a further segment that would take up the Fox News criticism and catalog all the stereotypes he had exploited in his impressions of politicians, Mr. Cenac said the host “kept shutting me down.”

    “And then he got upset and he stood up,” Mr. Cenac said, adding that Mr. Stewart shouted expletives at him several times. The argument continued as Mr. Cenac followed Mr. Stewart into the host’s office and could be heard throughout the building.

    Mr. Stewart later apologized to his staff, but Mr. Cenac, who was at the time the only black writer on “The Daily Show,” said he felt disrespected. Though Mr. Cenac remained with the program for one more year, he said he was alienated and miserable and “never felt comfortable” during the remainder of his time there.

    “I represent my community and I represent my people,” he said in the podcast. “And I’ve got to be honest if something seems questionable.”

    Man, it must have sucked to be the only black writer on that show.
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  2. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    I hate to tell you this, but John McCain's best friend was never a liberal. Stewart's a centrist squish who has all the flaws of people who pretend that conservatives aren't generally crazier than liberals but who happens to be funny.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    Personally, I always found Colbert to be far funnier than Stewart, whose schtick these days is little more than yelling censored profanities at the screen.

    But gtardo is still a liar. :bergman:
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  4. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    That's a fair assessment IMO. I'd consider Stewart funny, but uneven and significantly overrated. I'm curious to see how funny out-of-character Colbert can be on a regular basis.
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I honestly prefer his interview segments more than the news stuff. Back in the early days there was more balance between Stewart as the anchor and the correspondents that included Colbert, Steve Correll, the guy that played the Fire Lord in that horrible adaptation of "The Last Airbender," and Samantha Bee among others. It wasn't just the Jon Stewart show. Considering the complete n00b that's supposed to replace him in the fall, TIIC will be just as well to get back to that format.
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    I always got the idea stewart was a centrist who was forced to go more after the right because they were just funnier and stupider. The left has it's problems, but they are far batter at not tripping over themselves and acting like complete fools. The republicans adopted a ton of far out ideas and complete lies. During the daily show's history they went from more refined conservatives to Larry the cable guy. There were a number of great jokes stewart did in regards to Gore, kerry, and Obama. He did a lot of mocking of pundits on MSNBC and ripped up people like Micheal moore on many occasions.

    I think a lot of the problem with how the right saw stewart came from a lot of the spin and that during the Bush years there was just so much to mock. When obama got elected the daily show went on an attack on MSNBC for being the new faux news of the left. He has a lot of supposedly liberal views. I would say he is more of a true believer in liberty than most liberals as he certainly attacked liberal nanny laws better than anyone. His mocking of bloomburg was epic when the soda ban came out.

    I have to say I did fall off of watching the show for the past year or so. He really was not making jokes as much as he was saying look at this crazy and then face palming. I will say also the Obama visits were giving me a bit of an idea he was holding back for access like MSNBC. Also, all the vacation time was getting to be a bit much, and I had some much better sources. Not to mention they lost a lot of their better correspondents. The daily show took a huge talent hit when Colbert left, but the shows were so close together it was not hard to watch the two. John Oliver was another loss. I think he actually took what was left of the humor and the edge with him. The correspondants were really more like people who could not get on SNL when you got rid of oliver and colbert.
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    I loved the show when craig kilborn was doing it, and I was not a jon Stewart fan mainly because I thought his standup fell a bit flat. Still, he picked it up over the years, and I think his choice of writers and certain of his secondary talent made the show decent. I think colbert will do OK, but I have a feeling Fallon is just going to end up killing him with the younger demo while the older people just end up tuning out. Colbert's schtick was insanely good and he kept it fresh for a long time, but can he appeal to the larger demo and pull in conservative TV viewers who might find falon more palatable? You cannot rely on the younger demo to tune into broadcast TV. The late night TV demo is a lot of boomers and older. You are also talking about killing the entire act that made him famous and well liked. Not every comedian has a second popular personality. How many funny popular comedians have failed talk shows? there are a bunch.

    Still, I hope colbert does great. Of course, there is now no reason at all to tune into comedy central at all now. That is unless you like censored jack black movies or terrible skit shows.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I always thought something was a little off about you, now I know.
    :no:
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    OK, I forgot Steve correl and I was trying to remember aasif mandvi who had me laughing a lot. I never really got samantha, but she could do some good sarcastic interviews. I did laugh a bit at The guy who replaced colbert especially because he did a good white guy immitation.
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    Alctgually, I was a fan of kilborn's comedy pre-daily show. I was really into stand up a long time ago, and had even been a viewer of HA! I remember before cablke watching the friday and saturday standups and then music videos before the was MTV or comedy central so I was pretty familiar with a lot of the people who started up shows way back then. Stewart became a lot better being a bit younger seeming, and kilborn fell off after losing the daily show. I am not saying that original time even came close in comparison once stewart and his team got into their sweet spot. Just those first few seasons i was longing for kilborn to come back and did eventually see the light of stewart who was good in his prime. I actually think political commentary was more stewarts calling than standup. He was probably too cerebral for the stand up scene. Some people can do political standup like lewis black or john oliver, and others just seem to zing ones over the audiences head like Stewart or Dennis Miller before he had his brain sucked out and replaced with a large turd from Rush Limbaugh.
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    Ugh, fucking stop.

    Augh, Christ! :facepalm:
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    Hey, way back then we did not have much at all, and I do believe Ha! was the original owners (for US broadcast) of Who's line is it anyway. If anyone even mentions you loved drew carey in that show you get my eternal wrath for being a fetus and reminding me of my age. Perhaps it was kids in the hall, but anyway they were part of the original attempts to make an actual comedy network. Oh, and due to where we lived (on a dirt road) cable never came to our house and I had to go other places to watch cable, or I had to go scanning the skies with the Old School satellite dish through 14 different sattelites with a bunch of different channels who might have something and look through a sattelite TV guide that 2x anything on the magazine rack per week. Still, I did see some interesting shit from that thing, and I did learn a lot about media encryption technology and black boxing.
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    Colbert is magnitudes of funny over Stewart IMO. I've read other similar things about Stewart being bitter, petty, bullying, hypocritical, etc.
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    Citation required.
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    I have to agree there. Colbert is certainly the better of the two. Given the surprise that was bill cosby I cannot say for sure what stewart is like off screen.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Take your hands, select the appropriate keys and type google, yahoo, bing, or any number of search engines and you can eliminate the middle man AKA me.
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    Thing is, I'm a big fan of Stewart. I have googled him, on numerous occasions, and have read just about everything out there about him, and none of it matches your assertion, save a few by FOX News pundits (most notably Bill O'reilly) who feel that Stewart has slighted them for pointing out their outright lies. You, apparently, are privy to google results that differ from mine. So please, serve as middle man, just this once, and provide me with links to articles about Stewart being bitter, petty, bullying, hypocritical, etc.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    So you can decry the sources as not not being legitimate because they don't support your view? That's not a fool's errand.
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    I haven't watched Stewart or Colbert in ages but I did like them. Colbert is funnier than Stewart but John Oliver is better than both of them.
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    Oh hell yes! John Oliver totally rocks.
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    Er, no. I decry sources as illegitimate when they regularly lie thru their motherfucking teeth, cause they have an axe to grind. But, hey, nice strawman.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Same old crap. Guy does good work addressing racism and inequality, over years, and does something stupid, and Conservatives go - see, see!!!!

    Because when they see their guys attacked for the same thing, they never understand that it isn't just that thing, its all the actions over the course of that person's life. A guy who voted against equal rights, supports gerrymandering out minority votes, attacks welfare, isn't going to get any slack cut for them.

    Stupid conservatives will now argue against this, and fail for once again not understanding the basic shit every other human on the planet does.
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    Whereas Democrats could filibuster Civil Rights Acts, hold high positions in the KKK, and Democrats would keep voting for them into the 2000's.
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    Racist southern Democrats either a) shut up and stopped being racist southern Democrats, b) kept being racist and aligned themselves with the Republican party, or c) died off and left a legacy of children who now vote for Republicans.
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    The answer is c. But it's taking them decades to die out, with some like Fritz Hollings still writing for the Huffington Post, and some like Hillary running for President.
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    Nah, you make a claim, it's on you to present the evidence.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Like liberals don't have an ax to grind? :lol: Shit that grinder wheel is turning and sparks are flying 24/7.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    So you can shoot it down because it wasn't written by and for liberals? I'll take a rain-check.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Okay, so we will just conclude that you're full of shit. See, the alternative is better, because then the expected conclusion is that your source is full of shit. Thing is, though, I have no problem with the idea that Stuart is a total ass. I don't care enough to research the matter, but I'm prepared to believe it. Too bad your unwillingness or inability to cite a source means I'll instead have to lump you with the uninformed, stupid, or lying. That's not you, is it?
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    Oliver is funny and also makes good points.